Acerforestry Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 How many forum users are aware of the above being rapidly pushed through parliament currently, and the implications for the public if it is unchallenged, out of curiousity. Worth running a search on this to see how it will affect everybody's lives. I find it staggering that the most important news is exactly what isn't in the news, if you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spr1985 Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 Im fully aware, fully aware of the fact they’re trying to push through forced entry into people homes etc and as you say nothing in the news just how they like it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 Voting Conservative/Labour/LibDem/Green all yields the same result Net Zero result, working and even middle class run into the ground, being sacrificed on the alter of what... as long as there are 8 billion peoiple in the world, all the coal, oil, gas, etc etc is all going to be used no matter what...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted September 9, 2023 Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 Yep Jail and a 15k fine for not being EPC compliant, a Totalitarian state. Keep hold of your Guns you are going to need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted September 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 I'm relieved that at least on here there is some level of awareness, most people I can mention this to are clueless - its embarassing really that on the whole we pay so little attention to not only our futures but our offsprings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: Yep Jail and a 15k fine for not being EPC compliant, a Totalitarian state. Keep hold of your Guns you are going to need them. I'm sure guns would be the first things they would take. Just in case there are any "misunderstandings" when they go to check the energy efficiency of your fridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 i am aware of it...........but havnt delved into it.....its not that i dont care anymore..its that im just fed up with the subjugation of my fellow humans.....i havnt the energy to fight these individual ideas/attacks....i will concentrate on the root cause...and will vote in a way that will do the most damage to these parties that are taxing me to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 17 hours ago, Acerforestry said: How many forum users are aware of the above being rapidly pushed through parliament currently, and the implications for the public if it is unchallenged, out of curiousity. Worth running a search on this to see how it will affect everybody's lives. I find it staggering that the most important news is exactly what isn't in the news, if you will Got to be honest, other than knowing a general push towards so called green policys, I was not aware of any specific legislation about to come in. Ive had a look and drawn a blank, could anyone list a few of the most concerning ones? What annoys me is the UK produces less than 1% of world pollution, yet China produces 30% and simply doesn't care. We could literally stop all pollution over night and it would make no difference at all, why are we forcing millions of our own citizens into poverty for no sensible reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Got to be honest, other than knowing a general push towards so called green policys, I was not aware of any specific legislation about to come in. Ive had a look and drawn a blank, could anyone list a few of the most concerning ones? What annoys me is the UK produces less than 1% of world pollution, yet China produces 30% and simply doesn't care. We could literally stop all pollution over night and it would make no difference at all, why are we forcing millions of our own citizens into poverty for no sensible reason. Don’t know how reliable this video is but have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, old'un said: Don’t know how reliable this video is but have a look. Geoff is one of the good ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 It could well be a back door way to get peoples properties off them en mass as they make it so expensive to make your house so efficient that they offer to do it and then you can kindly rent it off them We really need to open eyes to what is happening in this dump of a country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adzyvilla Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 Im fully aware of this and the complete lack of attention this is getting in the legacy media, doing the governments dirty work by ignoring it. Thanks for airing it on here so it can be seen by a wider audience, and I urge all of you who care to at least try and warn others who might not know. I have lost count of the amount of times I have contacted my constituency MP about a whole range of matters, who used to just reply along the lines of 'thanks for writing, but i think you should leave it to the adults' and now no longer replies at all. As Stonepark suggests, there isn't going to be a political solution as it appears to be the problem, a mixture of blind dogma bordering on religious zealotry on the part of some, and good old fashioned vested interests on others. Parliament is all sewn up by the uniparty and their direction of travel is clear, so what other options do we have? I dont want a 4am knock at the door from special branch so I'll leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted September 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, discobob said: Geoff is one of the good ones Oddly enough this is exactly what I viewed this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Got to be honest, other than knowing a general push towards so called green policys, I was not aware of any specific legislation about to come in. Ive had a look and drawn a blank, could anyone list a few of the most concerning ones? What annoys me is the UK produces less than 1% of world pollution, yet China produces 30% and simply doesn't care. We could literally stop all pollution over night and it would make no difference at all, why are we forcing millions of our own citizens into poverty for no sensible reason. If the Energy Bill passes in its current state we are living under a Totalitarian Govt. Half of the MP's couldn't even be bothered to vote never mind debate, a truly disgusting situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 hours ago, old'un said: Don’t know how reliable this video is but have a look. Thank you oldun. 52 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: If the Energy Bill passes in its current state we are living under a Totalitarian Govt. Half of the MP's couldn't even be bothered to vote never mind debate, a truly disgusting situation. The cons need to go, they're nothing more than labour in Conservatives clothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Thank you oldun. The cons need to go, they're nothing more than labour in Conservatives clothing. The only other one I’d Reform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, discobob said: The only other one I’d Reform Exactly what I'm doing. I'm tired of the lies, if reform make a mess, at least I voted for it, instead of voting for a party that makes all the promises but intentionally delivers the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Exactly what I'm doing. I'm tired of the lies, if reform make a mess, at least I voted for it, instead of voting for a party that makes all the promises but intentionally delivers the opposite. As Det. John McClane would say "Welcome to the party, pal!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 Lee Anderson posted this defence of the indefensible this morning on his Twitter, screenshotted for those of you not on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 In other words laying the groundwork to do us eventually..... Turn that hob up a little bit more - the frog is quite comfortable there...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 It's all there in black and white. Blatant lies from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I've had enough of the "we're all in it together" Conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 I worried about the MP's total lack of logic. He only voted for it as it merely laid the groundwork for any future government to utilise. He couldn't imagine any MP voting for implementation, so what was the point in voting for it? Why didn't he say that it would never be used so there was no point in passing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I've had enough of the "we're all in it together" Conservatives. And you think labour will get rid of it when they come to power, if anything they would be the ones to hasten it along, look across the border to Wales at the labour dictatorship to see what labour will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 TBH I almost joined XTwitter to have a go at him It is a shame as he seemed to be a decent down to earth guy - obviously has been introduced to the WEF and the brain washing machine....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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