enfieldspares Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Genghis said: I understand what you’re saying, but most of the Tory government from 1997 are either retired or dead. All of the calls for increased gun control in the past 2 years have come from Labour. The wording in this quote is interesting . There’s been a lot of talk since Plymouth as to how somebody living in a town should not own a gun, and the proposal for shooters to store guns at a gun club instead of home keeps rearing its ugly head. Until Labour denies this then will pursue this then I cannot support them. Erm? MARS rifles and the .50 calibre? Mandatory GP input? And lead shot replacement such as iron shot being unsuitable for some guns the cost of the alternatives such as bismuth will be gun control by price. We've left the EU yet why hasn't the Government unquivocally ditched REACH proposals on lead shot. But, yes, I do note that Labour aren't exactly gun friendly either. Just that my purpose is so that others don't see the Tories through rose tinted glasses on gun issues. And most recently the consultation on firearms licence fees that concluded in August this year? My best advice is hope that whoever gets in at least those of us that vote have made effort to discover which candidate in our consitituncies is the least gun unfriendly! Edited October 10, 2023 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 10:14, Lloyd90 said: Best get prepared for the incoming change as the Tories are so unpopular at the moment I can see nothing but a Labour government coming. It’s not even that Labour are good or a credible alternative. They’re going to win off the back of the Tories being so useless and everyone being so annoyed / fed up of them! “Anything is better than this lot” is going to win the next election. The Mid Beds and Tamworth by election results are not encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Penelope said: The Mid Beds and Tamworth by election results are not encouraging. The Conservative minister interviewed about it claimed it’s not that bad and the results aren’t good enough to indicate Labour are going to win the next GE. Talk about clueless!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: The Conservative minister interviewed about it claimed it’s not that bad and the results aren’t good enough to indicate Labour are going to win the next GE. Talk about clueless!!! 44% Mid Beds and 42% Tamworth, turnouts I belief, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratlegs Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 They banned fox hunting what's next??? The loonies over the border have banned snares even their lies arnt true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Ratlegs said: They banned fox hunting what's next??? The loonies over the border have banned snares even their lies arnt true Yep Labour will be a disaster for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Weihrauch17 said: Yep Labour will be a disaster for us. The disaster won't stop with those alive today, those yet to be born and their children, will still be paying for a Labour government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: The disaster won't stop with those alive today, those yet to be born and their children, will still be paying for a Labour government. only after they have paid for 13yrs of tories bankrupting the country! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, clangerman said: only after they have paid for 13yrs of tories bankrupting the country! Even with the highest ever levels of taxation, we will be unlikely to ever pay back the Tory debt levels let alone recover the economic cost of Brexit. With the election results the country is calling out for change. Desperate to get away from the disaster we have in power. Whilst almost any change will be a bonus I wonder how long the red factions can be kept in check. It will take at least three terms for our new PM to make headway and as with the current lot after the first term in fighting becomes cancerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 41 minutes ago, clangerman said: only after they have paid for 13yrs of tories bankrupting the country! The UK isn’t bankrupt. In the 1970’s the Labour government of the day took us about as close to bankruptcy as we’ve been, if I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 More left wing socialist dross. Why any one with half a brain would vote for Labour is beyond me, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Scully said: The UK isn’t bankrupt. In the 1970’s the Labour government of the day took us about as close to bankruptcy as we’ve been, if I recall. 76 Mr Callaghan. 1 minute ago, grahamch said: More left wing socialist dross. Why any one with half a brain would vote for Labour is beyond me, Because those without voted tory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, clangerman said: only after they have paid for 13yrs of tories bankrupting the country! Remind me, what was the note that Labour left for the Cons Don't get me wrong they are all bad, but Labour win this one hands down.the 5 minutes ago, grahamch said: More left wing socialist dross. Why any one with half a brain would vote for Labour is beyond me, Because they have short memories! Edited October 20, 2023 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 I see Reform, UKIP and Britain First on the Ballot paper. Who are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, oowee said: I see Reform, UKIP and Britain First on the Ballot paper. Who are they? Not sure but getting more votes than the 'Lib dems' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, oowee said: Because those without voted tory? Really? So you voted for Corbyn? And you accuse those who voted Tory of having no brains? 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Scully said: Really? So you voted for Corbyn? And you accuse those who voted Tory of having no brains? 😳 He also voted to remain in the EU (probably because it suited HIS lifestyle.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: He also voted to remain in the EU (probably because it suited HIS lifestyle.) 🤣 I could see the impact and costs cost and could see no benefits. Unfortunately it came true. Only last week my bill was £270 for nothing. Still I guess for some self flagellation is a passion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 24 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: He also voted to remain in the EU (probably because it suited HIS lifestyle.) Despite all the promises and false claims of how things would be better, you’re surely not suggesting that Brexit has been a good thing? It’s been nothing short of a shambles. All the promises of trade deals with the USA and common wealth … they wrote £300m+ for the NHS on the side of a bus … then said “That’s what we COULD do… now what we’re actually GOING to do!” … A Labour Government is coming … not because the electorate think Labour are brilliant … but because the Tories have been such an absolute shambles they truly believe anyone could do a better job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted October 20, 2023 Report Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 hours ago, oowee said: 76 Mr Callaghan. Because those without voted tory? You’re voting for a party of which numerous members want either a total gun ban, or at least a ban on you keeping your guns at home. If either of these happen, they will never be reversed because gun control only moves in one direction. 1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said: A Labour Government is coming … not because the electorate think Labour are brilliant … but because the Tories have been such an absolute shambles they truly believe anyone could do a better job. This. Labour haven’t climbed above the Tories, the Tories have crash landed on top of Labour… and then fallen a bit further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 9 hours ago, oowee said: 🤣 Only last week my bill was £270 for nothing. Go on, tell us what the £270 was for. 9 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: A Labour Government is coming … not because the electorate think Labour are brilliant … but because the Tories have been such an absolute shambles they truly believe anyone could do a better job. How wrong they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Go on, tell us what the £270 was for. How wrong they are Import duty on German boat parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratlegs Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 Rishi has got a lot of cleaning up to after Boris Brixit lies and trusses flat spin implosion give him a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, oowee said: Import duty on German boat parts. Better you pay it than the Tax payer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Ratlegs said: Rishi has got a lot of cleaning up to after Boris Brixit lies and trusses flat spin implosion give him a chance When is that argument going to run out as their go to excuse? 13 years in power … 7 hours ago, Newbie to this said: How wrong they are And when are they going to stop using that excuse as well?! Done an awful job but keep shouting “It would be worse under someone else” just doesn’t cut it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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