Conor O'Gorman Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 In July 2023, the Home Office released its annual statistics on shotgun and firearm certification in England and Wales, and the facts were plain to see. Only six per cent were female between April 2022 and March 2023, of the 516,500 people who held a shotgun or firearm at that time. This is a figure we must tackle head-on as a shooting community. It is an issue that BASC has been addressing for several years and we have recently revitalised our approach. Click the link below for more information https://basc.org.uk/women-in-shooting-events/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said: In July 2023, the Home Office released its annual statistics on shotgun and firearm certification in England and Wales, and the facts were plain to see. Only six per cent were female between April 2022 and March 2023, of the 516,500 people who held a shotgun or firearm at that time. This is a figure we must tackle head-on as a shooting community. It is an issue that BASC has been addressing for several years and we have recently revitalised our approach. Click the link below for more information https://basc.org.uk/women-in-shooting-events/ Why? If more women wanted to shoot they would do, are you joining the ever growing list of box tickers? Not enough LGBT shooting next? How many men play Net Ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted January 30 Author Report Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: Why? If more women wanted to shoot they would do, are you joining the ever growing list of box tickers? Not enough LGBT shooting next? How many men play Net Ball? Shooting is open to everyone, and there are barriers, whether real or perceived, to get into shooting, whatever the discipline, and there are lots of initiatives to encourage more women into many sports not just shooting. The more diverse we can be the more inclusive we can become. And that includes welcoming LGBTQQIP2SA shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said: Shooting is open to everyone, and there are barriers, whether real or perceived, to get into shooting, whatever the discipline, and there are lots of initiatives to encourage more women into many sports not just shooting. The more diverse we can be the more inclusive we can become. And that includes welcoming LGBTQQIP2SA shooters. Oh dear! You go from bad to absolutely ridiculous! Edited January 30 by Weihrauch17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 (edited) The problem is not that's there are not enough women, or indeed enough men, but not enough MPs and Lords (men or women) that now actively shoot. An will defend that in Parliament. It doesn't matter if the Queen of the Nile shoots. What matters is that MPs shoot and MPs that won't sell us down the river as did Hurd and Hogg in 1988. FWIW my late mother shot, rifles, and held an FAC from before WWII right up until the 1970s. That's why I am disappointed that BASC doesn't actively support those hereditary peers standing for election to "the ninety-two" by contacting those BASC members who are of that electorate who get to vote on who gets a Lords seat. Edited January 30 by enfieldspares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Great idea let’s start with a 410 obviously we’re going to start on the right foot and not use lead steel not available ok bismuth £425 a slab of 250 can you see where the problem is starting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Great idea let’s start with a 410 obviously we’re going to start on the right foot and not use lead steel not available ok bismuth £425 a slab of 250 can you see where the problem is starting? Thank you. Exactly this. But "what ho" as long as the big bag boys can justify what they do by saying they are "harvesting food for the food chain" then so what. Let everyone else go under the bus. All in the name of protecting a six figure investment in what was then called the British Game Alliance. Edited January 30 by enfieldspares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 I am all for women in shooting, and encouraging them to take it up. But as Weihrauch says, if they want to do it they will. And I am not thinking of taking up netball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 I see a fair number of women shooting, albeit they are in the minority. I am unclear as to why we have to tackle the problem head on or even if it needs tackling at all. What would be the rationale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 30 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: Thank you. Exactly this. But "what ho" as long as the big bag boys can justify what they do by saying they are "harvesting food for the food chain" then so what. Let everyone else go under the bus. All in the name of protecting a six figure investment in what was then called the British Game Alliance. But now it’s all about the environment and the flora and fauna seems a little more though should have gone into this wondering if the home office will be realising figures for performance of police forces on grants 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger687 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Conor O'Gorman said: In July 2023, the Home Office released its annual statistics on shotgun and firearm certification in England and Wales, and the facts were plain to see. Only six per cent were female between April 2022 and March 2023, of the 516,500 people who held a shotgun or firearm at that time. This is a figure we must tackle head-on as a shooting community. It is an issue that BASC has been addressing for several years and we have recently revitalised our approach. Click the link below for more information https://basc.org.uk/women-in-shooting-events/ Why must we tackle it head on? So that BASC can meet their B-corp mandated DIE criteria? Could it possibly stem from the fact that most women aren't interested in shooting? 50 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said: Shooting is open to everyone, and there are barriers, whether real or perceived, to get into shooting, whatever the discipline, and there are lots of initiatives to encourage more women into many sports not just shooting. The more diverse we can be the more inclusive we can become. And that includes welcoming LGBTQQIP2SA shooters. By far the biggest barriers to shooting are lack of land and permissions to shoot on (especially true for firearms certificates), and our very restrictive licensing system. Why doesn't BASC try and tackle these two instead? Just imagine the difference it would make if public land existed to hunt on, like in the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, Smudger687 said:Just imagine the difference it would make if public land existed to hunt on, like in the States. The very fact that such land does not exist is probably the reason that there are so few accidents in British shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger687 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, London Best said: The very fact that such land does not exist is probably the reason that there are so few accidents in British shooting. You're not technically wrong; having no opportunity to use a gun certainly would reduce the chances of having an accident with it, much like not driving a car would reduce the chances of having a crash. But guns are meant to be used, what's the point otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggy74 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 So it starts 😔 everyone must be the same in the name of diversity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 I can get nagged at home no need to take it with me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Women make up 51% of the UK population - simpler to call it half. Perhaps BASC is correct in seeking to address the under representation of women in shooting. A useful place to start would be the BASC Council, where women occupy 5 positions out of 22 or the BASC Executive Team where 4 out of 11 are women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyshooter Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Beaters day on our small shoot saw all of the women beaters ( who shoot ) show up with their guns. 2 new women beaters want to learn to shoot and one has joined BASC as an individual member. No barriers from us, and every encouragement is given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 My daughter asks me if we can go shooting more often than my son does . We have had some great days in the field together . But I know she is the exception not the rule .You cant force people to engage in recreation if they don't want to . Put your efforts into something more useful like reversing the constant attack on shooting lifestyles and choice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, Gordon R said: Women make up 51% of the UK population - simpler to call it half. Perhaps BASC is correct in seeking to address the under representation of women in shooting. A useful place to start would be the BASC Council, where women occupy 5 positions out of 22 or the BASC Executive Team where 4 out of 11 are women. 25% and 30% so on % more on the Basc team than the % that shoot nationally personally I’d rather people were employed on there ability to do the job than gender just my thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jall25 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 8 hours ago, tonyshooter said: Beaters day on our small shoot saw all of the women beaters ( who shoot ) show up with their guns. 2 new women beaters want to learn to shoot and one has joined BASC as an individual member. No barriers from us, and every encouragement is given. Same with us - getting on for now 50 / 50 - lady beaters and men The ladies really like working their dogs I dont see the need for a big campaign from BASC to be honest If they do - why not make BASC free for ladies for their first year of membership ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mable Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said: And that includes welcoming LGBTQQIP2SA shooters. That says it all. Not worth reading beyond. All bow to whatever that is. We're doomed, might as well hand over our guns now, first you ban lead now we have to paint our guns rainbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 A lot of men shoot to get away from their other half (3 of us were once standing in a wood and discussing why we were out in the cold and wet day and it transpired that we all had ugly or nagging wives) so if more women shoot I'm guessing less men will? What a total waste of BASC time and money - but there's nothing new there is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 I’m afraid that LGBTQQIP2SA lost me at the second Q. Can anyone please translate into Anglo-Saxon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 just another box ticking exercise from the ever growing,virtue signalling,woke agenda signing libtard bodies that are sadly now omni present in every facet of life. 7 minutes ago, London Best said: I’m afraid that LGBTQQIP2SA lost me at the second Q. Can anyone please translate into Anglo-Saxon. i could easily but it's a flogging offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Mable said: That says it all. Not worth reading beyond. All bow to whatever that is. We're doomed, might as well hand over our guns now, first you ban lead now we have to paint our guns rainbow. Alphabet Mafia. 22 minutes ago, London Best said: I’m afraid that LGBTQQIP2SA lost me at the second Q. Can anyone please translate into Anglo-Saxon. Alphabet Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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