Zoli 12 guage Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 14 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: The Bridge has the same issue as lots of infrastructure around the world, bridges, hospitals, prisons, the lot … they’re so astronomically expensive to build no one ever considers replacing them until they’re a complete wreck or something awful happens. it had stood the test of time for over 50 years with no issues till a 80,000 ton (?) ship hit it. what are you suggesting? engineering structures should have a shelf life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: Not sure any bridge would stand up to being slammed into the "legs" by a full container ship.... Atleast the ship was able to put out a mayday and the bridge got shut. Else it could have been so much worse from a casualty perspective. This youtube link is a longer video of the event, it shows that the last visible vehicle crossing was around 30 seconds clear. The event is around 5 minutes into the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEkRjlSgIIQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, sportsbob said: This youtube link is a longer video of the event, it shows that the last visible vehicle crossing was around 30 seconds clear. The event is around 5 minutes into the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEkRjlSgIIQ Yes you can see what appears to be a truck/lorry going over right to left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 I'm sure the bridge support piers would have been fine to deflect a 1970's sized ship. That monster ship probably hit the steelwork before the concrete pier base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said: it had stood the test of time for over 50 years with no issues till a 80,000 ton (?) ship hit it. what are you suggesting? engineering structures should have a shelf life? I think with the size of ships, it would be virtually impossible to construct bridge that would withstand all possible impacts. I'm sure the bridge would be subject to regular inspections for corrosion and 'ageing' issues, and if there has been any negligence, no doubt this will emerge as the inevitable enquiry takes place. My guess is that there are MANY bridges worldwide at risk from this type of accident. It's a risk we live with and so far with reasonable success. There was once a (railway) bridge over the Severn which was destroyed by a maritime collision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severn_Railway_Bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said: it had stood the test of time for over 50 years with no issues till a 80,000 ton (?) ship hit it. what are you suggesting? engineering structures should have a shelf life? We currently have a number of engineering structures crumbling due to the concrete being so old. They should be reviewed to ensure they’re still fit for purpose is what I’m saying. Not sure if it would have made a big difference in this exact case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 Just now, Lloyd90 said: We currently have a number of engineering structures crumbling due to the concrete being so old. They should be reviewed to ensure they’re still fit for purpose is what I’m saying. Not sure if it would have made a big difference in this exact case. I would put good money on the bridge having regular inspections. But it was NEVER going to win a fight with a ship of that size and more importantly WEIGHT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said: We currently have a number of engineering structures crumbling due to the concrete being so old. i think you'll find that in the cases you cite it's because the concrete is of a proven inferior/substandard (aerated) type/design/quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 (edited) 20 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I would put good money on the bridge having regular inspections. But it was NEVER going to win a fight with a ship of that size and more importantly WEIGHT. As said possibly down to the initial impact point which looked like the bow taking out the metal pylon above the solid footings? Edited March 28 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 i bet the money grabbing insurance company is not happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 It is reckoned that the port is losing $15 million a day. It is reckoned the bridge can be rebuilt for an estimated $40 million The US Government has allocated $60 million in "help". Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: It is reckoned that the port is losing $15 million a day. It is reckoned the bridge can be rebuilt for an estimated $40 million The US Government has allocated $60 million in "help". Go figure. How would anyone even begin to work it out? Well above my pay grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Wouldn't like to think how much it's going to cost just to clear the debris and get the 'site' ready for a new construction !? All these figures getting banded about are going to be nothing close [guessing] to the end figures. Anyway,,,, cost doesn't really matter, the bridge need rebuilding, whether in the same or different position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Biden has already said that the American Government would foot the bill for a new bridge. Of course he was speaking out of turn in a blatant attempt at vote gathering. He will be long gone before that bridge is rebuilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 I bet there are a few "Lloyd's names" with twitchy rears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 4 hours ago, old man said: I bet there are a few "Lloyd's names" with twitchy rears? they will still get their bonuses....................you have to do something pretty dire not to get yer bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Plans will already be in place to replace that bridge or China will be on the phone we can deliver goods in 7 days ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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