clangerman Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 important thing is the rich and greedy should not suffer perish the thought they might have to go without! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 28 minutes ago, clangerman said: important thing is the rich and greedy should not suffer perish the thought they might have to go without! lol And you think the tax changes will effect them... It will be the likes of you and I who will be hit hardest by the changes .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, ShootingEgg said: And you think the tax changes will effect them... It will be the likes of you and I who will be hit hardest by the changes .. think my failed attempt at humour was pointing out it will be us suffering as per usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, clangerman said: think my failed attempt at humour was pointing out it will be us suffering as per usual Or my over heated body not reading it as it should have been.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 10 hours ago, clangerman said: important thing is the rich and greedy should not suffer perish the thought they might have to go without! lol I have asked before with no real answer so will repeat - "What constitutes rich??" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nublue 22 Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 Just put your coats on and stop moaning. 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 I think any government would have ended the winter fuel payment very soon,surprised it ever started really. Was like working tax credits given to some people with hundreds of thousands in savings and investments it had to stop eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Yellow Bear said: I have asked before with no real answer so will repeat - "What constitutes rich??" as it’s a means to show how little we are worth as human beings I would have to say unnecessary wealth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, clangerman said: as it’s a means to show how little we are worth as human beings I would have to say unnecessary wealth Quantify 'unecessary wealth'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, Yellow Bear said: I have asked before with no real answer so will repeat - "What constitutes rich??" Anyone who has more money than Clangerman by the look of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 16 minutes ago, Penelope said: Quantify 'unecessary wealth'? prob the amount some need not to feel inadequate or insecure luckily I’m usually broke! lol 2 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Anyone who has more money than Clangerman by the look of it any chance of lending me a tenner? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 (edited) Winter Fuel Payments were introduced by Gordon Brown in 1997 as part of his many 'bribes' to keep the electorate on the side of New Labour. He also introduced Working Tax credits Edited July 31 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 14 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: According to one paper, Labour were promising as recently as the election campaign that the WFP was 'safe' with them; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13690055/Labour-coming-Britains-old-folk-Worse-likely-follow-NEIL-CLARK.html I'm afraid pensioners are in for further 'defunding' to pay for the greedy union driven wage demands, which will prevail because the Labour party (and in fact many MPs separately) is in effect bribed - sorry 'funded' by the unions. Every politician has a master, there is no power in independence, no money or backing. Independents don't seem to thrive and last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, Penelope said: Quantify 'unecessary wealth'? It would be useful for the people if someone would perhaps then they could means test MPs to see if they need a expense account a limousine extra security free lunch the list goes on and on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 I didn't know that MP's can claim heating allowance 🙄 https://fullfact.org/online/MPs-no-upper-limit-heating-expenses/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty duck Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: I didn't know that MP's can claim heating allowance 🙄 https://fullfact.org/online/MPs-no-upper-limit-heating-expenses/ just beat me to it Harry ! them Reevers have always been up for robbing folk . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 3 hours ago, dainty duck said: just beat me to it Harry ! them Reevers have always been up for robbing folk . 👍😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 13 hours ago, dainty duck said: just beat me to it Harry ! them Reevers have always been up for robbing folk . 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 If you are a Labour senior, it seems you do still get your winter fuel bill paid, and often considerably more than pensioners ever got; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13755571/Labour-cabinet-ministers-using-cash-warm-homes.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRV Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 My state pension of £221.20 a week is above the level to get pension credit by £3.05 a week (158.6 a year) to get Pension Credits. I have resigned from The Labour Party after 40 years saving currently £68.50 annually to cover a part of the WFA loss. I will not be rejoining the LP again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 19 minutes ago, PRV said: My state pension of £221.20 a week is above the level to get pension credit by £3.05 a week (158.6 a year) to get Pension Credits. I have resigned from The Labour Party after 40 years saving currently £68.50 annually to cover a part of the WFA loss. I will not be rejoining the LP again. The credit limit is of course deliberately set just above the pension to reduce claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Apparently those pensioners living abroad under the Brexit deal get to keep their winter fuel payments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 46 minutes ago, Rem260 said: Apparently those pensioners living abroad under the Brexit deal get to keep their winter fuel payments. Blimey, that's crazy, they go abroad for the warmer weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 2 hours ago, Rem260 said: Apparently those pensioners living abroad under the Brexit deal get to keep their winter fuel payments. that's not a bad deal as they can just convert the payment into Rioja/Chianti (insert your tipple of choice)👍😎 while the pensioners in Newcastle/Manchester etc freeze their nads off😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Blimey, that's crazy, they go abroad for the warmer weather. 1 hour ago, Zoli 12 guage said: that's not a bad deal as they can just convert the payment into Rioja/Chianti (insert your tipple of choice)👍😎 while the pensioners in Newcastle/Manchester etc freeze their nads off😡 Yeah you couldn't make it up. Only this country would come up with something like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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