Keir's smashing the gangs

[amateur]

26 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

For those of us old enough to remember, that's what life is like under Labour.

All playing from the same songbook.

Blair changed the tune a little to get in last time, but Broon soon got it back to the old, old dirge.

[Mice!]

4 hours ago, Raja Clavata said:

Why gun boats?

Really, because then the Navy can patrol and protect out shores, hopefully after sinking a few the word gets out and the intimidation works, but our boats need to be bigger than there's.

These people aren't escaping from a war zone, they aren't at any risk, the are in France trying to get to England.

They are illegal economic immigrants and they're not wanted.

[Zoli 12 guage]

2 hours ago, Mice! said:

Really, because then the Navy can patrol and protect out shores, hopefully after sinking a few the word gets out and the intimidation works, but our boats need to be bigger than there's.

These people aren't escaping from a war zone, they aren't at any risk, the are in France trying to get to England.

They are illegal economic immigrants and they're not wanted.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[discobob]

On 12/08/2024 at 12:41, JohnfromUK said:

Starmer is a politician (and before that was a barrister).  As such, anyone who actually believes anything they say (and I'm talking most politicians of all parties here, not specifically Starmer) must be stupid.  Politicians say things to get votes.  They don't believe what they say, but it's a means to an end, the end being getting into 'power'.  Barristers represent their clients cases - and there must be a great many cases where they have to stand up in court and fight a case they don't believe in - because all cases need both a prosecution and a defence.  Both cannot be 'right'.  They know that, but still have to do the job for which they are being (handsomely) paid.

You need to understand Two  Tier a bit better. Here is poacher turned gamekeeper Peter Hitchin to explain it better

10 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

Let's be honest the ones that are here are going to be our problem, God forbid we have a Hitler type come to power. What we can do is deport anyone new arriving straight back to France. 

A YouTuber and Twich mogul called AsmonGold reckons that we are possibly heading that way re the funny moustache guy!! 

if you watch his first video on it there is a classic moment when a Geordie was talking -and AsmonGold was totally lost with the accent

 

[JohnfromUK]

27 minutes ago, discobob said:

You need to understand Two  Tier a bit better. Here is poacher turned gamekeeper Peter Hitchin to explain it better

Thank you.  I am aware of Peter Hitchens, he writes in the Mail and I used to read some of what he wrote.  However, the Mail has now joined many of the other papers in putting up a pay-wall - and Peter Hitchens stuff is now usually behind it.  I am not a subscriber.

The point Peter Hitchens makes on Starmers hard left past is not unknown.  Hitchens also makes the point that he is a 'poacher turned gamekeeper in that he was once hard left himself, but now sits (not quite sure exactly where - but) broadly on the right.  Funny that he can change which he indicates enables him to speak with authority on these issues, but claims Starmer hasn't changed?

I don't know where the truth lies, but as Starmer is now P.M., we will very likely find out.

The idea that Starmer and Co regard anyone with savings as 'not a working man' is very probably true.   It is though a completely false and ludicrous idea as the great many who have savings may no longer be working, but have built the savings up up through a working career - and positively encouraged by HMG.

Labour have always HATED people with the means to have some independence (particularly financial independence) because it makes it much harder for the State to control them.  Gordon Brown did a much hated and long remembered raid of everyone's pensions - having himself earlier encouraged people to save form their old age.  Once the pot was looking fruitful he STOLE part of it.  Thats Labour for you - and it will happen again.

Edited August 13 by JohnfromUK

[Penelope]

14 hours ago, discobob said:

You need to understand Two  Tier a bit better. Here is poacher turned gamekeeper Peter Hitchin to explain it better

A YouTuber and Twich mogul called AsmonGold reckons that we are possibly heading that way re the funny moustache guy!! 

if you watch his first video on it there is a classic moment when a Geordie was talking -and AsmonGold was totally lost with the accent

 

Watched that a last week.

[discobob]

3 hours ago, Penelope said:

Watched that a last week.

The proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing!!

Don’t worry though. it is all a simulation!!! 😉

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, Nearly 500 crossed the Channel yesterday, 🤔

On 14/08/2024 at 08:19, Penelope said:

Watched that a last week.

Hello, I like Peter Hitchens , especially when he is on BBC question time

[Doormat]

I know this is insignificant 

but where I work there is a growing number of employees now refusing to do any OT

reason… they don’t want to pay a penny more in tax than they have to towards labour’s migrant  loving…sorry funding  government. 
 

last week there was a big meeting between the bosses and team leaders after a fair few deadlines were missed due to work not been completed because workers were refusing to do OT.

I know it’s insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but it clearly highlights the level of anger and discontent brewing.

I don’t often do OT, infact  never. But was asked last week if I would work this weekend, told them I’d already made plans…sorry.

colleague’s replied the same 

fact is I’m not putting myself out , then getting hit with paying more tax so labour can squander it on bloody migrants. 
 

 

[Vince Green]

Sweden has achieved negative migration

 None are coming and those already there are leaving. How did they do it? They stopped the benefits, hardly rocket science is it?

Look it up and see how they made it work for them. We can all learn from their example

 

Edited August 21 by Vince Green

[JohnfromUK]

4 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

Sweden has achieved negative migration

 None are coming and those already there are leaving. How did they do it? They stopped the benefits, hardly rocket science is it?

Look it up and see how they made it work for them. We can all learn from their example

 

Labour want a big number stuck on benefits.  People on benefits are under 'state control' and will vote for those who will keep (and improve) benefits.  They are Labour's future tickets to Gov't.

[yickdaz]

3 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

Sweden has achieved negative migration

 None are coming and those already there are leaving. How did they do it? They stopped the benefits, hardly rocket science is it?

 

Nope it isn't but we can seem to put one foot in front of the other 

2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Labour want a big number stuck on benefits.  People on benefits are under 'state control' and will vote for those who will keep (and improve) benefits.  They are Labour's future tickets to Gov't.

Well given that most the country have and will turn against them they are banking on something that will ruin the country and put nails in their own coffin 

[johnphilip]

41 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

Labour want a big number stuck on benefits.  People on benefits are under 'state control' and will vote for those who will keep (and improve) benefits.  They are Labour's future tickets to Gov't.

The more that arrive here by illegal mean will want there own Muslim  MP to represent them in Parliament. We are already seeing that. 

[B686]

24 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

The more that arrive here by illegal mean will want there own Muslim  MP to represent them in Parliament. We are already seeing that. 

Yes and it will get to a point where they have a majority and we will be treated like **** on the bottom of their shoe in our own country.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, Campsfield House Hotel is up for refurbishment at £70 million ,  Not forgetting Hasler detention centre, Where will it all end 🤔

[old man]

3 hours ago, Vince Green said:

Sweden has achieved negative migration

 None are coming and those already there are leaving. How did they do it? They stopped the benefits, hardly rocket science is it?

Look it up and see how they made it work for them. We can all learn from their example

 

We can't do that, it smacks of being nasty and mean?

3 hours ago, yickdaz said:

Nope it isn't but we can seem to put one foot in front of the other 

Well given that most the country have and will turn against them they are banking on something that will ruin the country and put nails in their own coffin 

By that time maybe it will be too late anyway?

Grasping politicos don't go easy or quickly?

[Vince Green]

1 hour ago, johnphilip said:

The more that arrive here by illegal mean will want there own Muslim  MP to represent them in Parliament. We are already seeing that. 

That's already happened in places like Tower Hamlets on the council.  Virtually (or maybe not even virtually) a rigged council to all intents and purposes

[Mice!]

On 18/08/2024 at 20:25, Doormat said:

but where I work there is a growing number of employees now refusing to do any OT

I find that quite funny, I don't do much OT, but others do, and the idea that doing more would help fund Labour never comes into it, I do it when I want more cash, its that simple.

[johnphilip]

18 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

That's already happened in places like Tower Hamlets on the council.  Virtually (or maybe not even virtually) a rigged council to all intents and purposes

Happen in the Midlands  the guy who won  said. " I am doing this for Gaza "  erm should he not be doing it for this country 

[Raja Clavata]

On 21/08/2024 at 12:14, Mice! said:

I find that quite funny, I don't do much OT, but others do, and the idea that doing more would help fund Labour never comes into it, I do it when I want more cash, its that simple.

I find it an interesting mentality too.

Earlier in my career I was regularly booking 100 to 150 hours overtime. Nowadays it’s just a fixed salary.

We’ve previously discussed salary thresholds for becoming a net contributor and I don’t remember if we arrived at a figure but I’ve just read elsewhere that for PAYE it’s around £41.5k. I I would like to hope that anyone under that level who could attain it through over time would be inclined to do so.

[Penelope]

19 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

I find it an interesting mentality too.

Earlier in my career I was regularly booking 100 to 150 hours overtime. Nowadays it’s just a fixed salary.

We’ve previously discussed salary thresholds for becoming a net contributor and I don’t remember if we arrived at a figure but I’ve just read elsewhere that for PAYE it’s around £41.5k. I I would like to hope that anyone under that level who could attain it through over time would be inclined to do so.

[Raja Clavata]

34 minutes ago, Penelope said:

I don’t see the connection mate. I was working for Ford, not the creator of VW.

[London Best]

I virtually never worked any overtime. 
I was more interested how little time I could spend at work, not how much.

[yickdaz]

On 21/08/2024 at 12:14, Mice! said:

I find that quite funny, I don't do much OT, but others do, and the idea that doing more would help fund Labour never comes into it, I do it when I want more cash, its that simple.

Exactly its like saying I'm refusing to go to work full stop because the tax from my salary goes to the government  

[amateur]

30 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

I don’t see the connection mate. I was working for Ford, not the creator of VW.

Henry Ford was a great admirer of Adolf