yickdaz Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, Doormat said: I think it’s a given that most of London, Leicester, Bradford etc etc voted them in, they all have something in common…do I need to spell it out??? it was obvious to a idiot this would happen. Reform didn’t even have a candidate in my city!! Hence everyone I know didn’t vote, they wouldn’t vote Tory but neither would they vote labour, but those cities above clearly did. Reform needs to get their act together and be visible in every city ready for the next election. Like you lot I have thoughts of utter disbelief same as I had in 97 when Blair got in. Difference was Blair was a vain egomaniacal narcissist, Keir is far far worse he fully intends to replace the British public with migrants and Muslims. I admit I am now so very very racist, never used to be - truthfully but I am now and it’s this and previous governments fault. I cannot hide my anger or revulsion towards these invaders, they are not wanted or welcomed. I flatly refuse to even acknowledge their presence. Despise them, but despise Starmer much much more. What a traitor!! I'm just waiting for the order to start deporting brits out the country so he can fit more in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, yickdaz said: I'm just waiting for the order to start deporting brits out the country so he can fit more in He needs the Archipelago to be fully running; it has started though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 (edited) 4 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said: in answer to one of your points, Reform didn't have enough time to prepare for this election (only 6 weeks notice) so couldn't get the number of candidates in place that they would no doubt have liked. can't really argue with the rest of it either. I think that was part of the big plan to not let Reform. Form more. Candidates . I think the Tories were. More scared of Reform , than they were of Labour. Reform needs to think more , a young party with lots of teething. Problems. They need to listen to Ben Habib. More. Nigel needs to share more of the power he has. I know. He owns 50% of Reform. As a going concern. They still have a long way to go. Needs more tories. To jump ship, instead of sitting on the. Fence Early days 4 hours ago, Zoli 12 guage said: Edited August 23 by johnphilip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 6 minutes ago, johnphilip said: I think that was part of the big plan to not let Reform. Form more. Candidates . I think the Tories were. More scared of Reform , than they were of Labour. Reform needs to think more , a young party with lots of teething. Problems. They need to listen to Ben Habib. More. Nigel needs to share more of the power he has. I know. He owns 50% of Reform. As a going concern. They still have a long way to go. Needs more stories. To jump ship, instead of sitting on the. Fence Early days They won't be in govt over a single marginal issue. Farage is toxic to a majority and would need to go. Reform also needs a reason to be, a usp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 9 hours ago, shaun4860 said: Just to clarify, I have voted in every election since I was old enough to Me too and nothing has changed so far. Lies and deceit from all where necessary to carry out their own hidden agenda? Increasing their own standing wherever possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 12 minutes ago, oowee said: They won't be in govt over a single marginal issue. Farage is toxic to a majority and would need to go. Reform also needs a reason to be, a usp. Please inform of the usp's of the current others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, old man said: Please inform of the usp's of the current others? Centre and centre right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 31 minutes ago, oowee said: They won't be in govt over a single marginal issue. Farage is toxic to a majority and would need to go. Reform also needs a reason to be, a usp. 90 odd places. In second place. That either the Tories. Did not. Get . More votes. Then Lib/ Dems. . Quite a remarkable vote for them as such a new party , they will steal even more. Votes next time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Hello, Do you think Ofgem are putting up the cost of gas and electric by 10% between October and December to pay for Labours renewable energy scheme ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 19 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Do you think Ofgem are putting up the cost of gas and electric by 10% between October and December to pay for Labours renewable energy scheme ?? They are really rubbing our nose in it. I think there is another one in the new year as well pleased I only have electricity and. A log burner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, johnphilip said: They are really rubbing our nose in it. I think there is another one in the new year as well pleased I only have electricity and. A log burner. Hello, More like a punch on the nose 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 55 minutes ago, johnphilip said: 90 odd places. In second place. That either the Tories. Did not. Get . More votes. Then Lib/ Dems. . Quite a remarkable vote for them as such a new party , they will steal even more. Votes next time . It will be a test in November with the orange Jesus to see if you can run a party on only hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 14 minutes ago, oowee said: It will be a test in November with the orange Jesus to see if you can run a party on only hate. Oh he will definitely get in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 22 hours ago, ditchman said: ok...reform dont have enough talent........but to fix this country DONT NEED TALENT.......it needs brutal desisions and the guts and balls todo the right thing.... This ^^^ But then the Civil Service will deliberately scupper what ever they try to achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, Vince Green said: This ^^^ But then the Civil Service will deliberately scupper what ever they try to achieve. the civil service is full of people /traitors like sue gray...as i said in a previous post....we need a benevolent dictator who can be brutal...and desisive we also need the govt we vote for.(not first past the post)..to allow a vice like grip to take care of the civil service..........and it aint going to be pretty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, oowee said: Centre and centre right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 2 hours ago, oowee said: Centre and centre right. which is which 🤷♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 22 hours ago, Rewulf said: Although Boris is good at being a politician, and you can read between the lines at what I mean there, his time has passed.. Career politicos are not what this country needs right now, it needs someone grounded in reality, with principles, who has the balls to grab the system by the throat, and force it to perform as it should. We are a wealthy country, with a history of success despite our size, its about time we stopped people of ALL ilks rinsing us dry. Totally agree👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, oowee said: It will be a test in November with the orange Jesus to see if you can run a party on only hate. Ironic when the dems have spent the last 4 years hating Trump dont you think ? In fact, thats been the election campaign so far, how bad its going to be if Trump gets POTUS, completely negating the fact that hes already spent 4 years as pres, and nothing bad happened, more than can be said for the sitting MIA president. Rather than display what THEY are going to do for the US, theyve based their strategy on how terrible life will be under Trump. Similarly labour crowed on about how bad life was under the tories, and how Reform were basically nazis ! Then set about robbing pensioners, pandering to greedy unions, and bringing in some of the most fascistic free speech legislation that would make hitler blush Wait till they announce their budget, its gonna be a blood bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 3 hours ago, oowee said: They won't be in govt over a single marginal issue. Farage is toxic to a majority and would need to go. Reform also needs a reason to be, a usp. They have a USP as the only party with common sense policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 33 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: They have a USP as the only party with common sense policies. All parties will say that. What are the policies? I don't think I have heard a policy even on their favoured topic. The same as the Orange Jesus, or Brexiteers lots of anti policy but no policy. I guess that's not surprising and maybe nearer the time something will emerge. Difficult then to support on the basis of nothing of substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 48 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Ironic when the dems have spent the last 4 years hating Trump dont you think ? In fact, thats been the election campaign so far, how bad its going to be if Trump gets POTUS, completely negating the fact that hes already spent 4 years as pres, and nothing bad happened, more than can be said for the sitting MIA president. Rather than display what THEY are going to do for the US, theyve based their strategy on how terrible life will be under Trump. Similarly labour crowed on about how bad life was under the tories, and how Reform were basically nazis ! Then set about robbing pensioners, pandering to greedy unions, and bringing in some of the most fascistic free speech legislation that would make hitler blush Wait till they announce their budget, its gonna be a blood bath. Nothing bad? Roe v Wade. Economic chaos. Enemies of the West in a love triangle. Labour were clear about their objectives and have set on the path of delivering and are making an impact. They never said it would be easy but given the hospital pass they have been given they are making a strong start. I am surprised they have been so hard on slashing benefits but I guess that's a reflection of the centre ground they choose to occupy and their strong fiscal rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 10 minutes ago, oowee said: All parties will say that. What are the policies? I don't think I have heard a policy even on their favoured topic. The same as the Orange Jesus, or Brexiteers lots of anti policy but no policy. I guess that's not surprising and maybe nearer the time something will emerge. Difficult then to support on the basis of nothing of substance. Read their Manifesto?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: Read their Manifesto?? I have. I see a lot of aims and objectives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, oowee said: I have. I see a lot of aims and objectives. ain't that what a manifesto is😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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