Dougy Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 I see there is another petition on the go. Border Control this time. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700824 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 Since the general election petition, I do believe it’s a good way of getting the British view across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jall25 Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 Signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 Don't need to stop anyone going out, just those coming in illegally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: just those coming in illegally. And those are the ones a law change will not stop if they seek "asylum" under international law as they do now. What we need is a large boot up the backside of the civil service. 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: just those coming in illegally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 But what would the government impose, or what could they do to stop illegal immigration? Not a fish for arguments, a genuine question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 29, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 7 minutes ago, BobbyH said: But what would the government impose, or what could they do to stop illegal immigration? Not a fish for arguments, a genuine question. I have no idea what they will do, well i actually do have a good idea , Nothing at all. We can sit back and do nothing or we can make a bit of noise and hope someone can hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyH Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Dougy said: I have no idea what they will do, well i actually do have a good idea , Nothing at all. We can sit back and do nothing or we can make a bit of noise and hope someone can hear. No no, I mean what could they actually physically do? What would you do to stop it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 29, 2024 Report Share Posted December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, BobbyH said: No no, I mean what could they actually physically do? What would you do to stop it? Simple, a small Navy ship in the channel to turn them back, shadow her with the Queen Elizabeth Carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted December 30, 2024 Report Share Posted December 30, 2024 Hello, Very good but by the time it reaches Parliament many more 1000s would have crossed the channel, Once those dinghies start crossing from France we cannot jeopardise their safety and i cannot see any turning back, Did we not pay France Millions of £s to stop them leaving the French Coast ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockybasher Posted December 30, 2024 Report Share Posted December 30, 2024 Done. If nothing else it will draw attention to the present numbers coming in, something that the present Govmt is not happy to do ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted December 30, 2024 Report Share Posted December 30, 2024 (edited) Only way to stop it is to make it unattractive to come here by stopping benefits and 5* luxury accommodation, chuck them in an interment camp and let it be known that it will take a couple of years to process them As to a petition the government will not take any notice of it they have to big a majority to worry what the public think, still signed it though Edited December 30, 2024 by vmaxphil Forgot something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 31, 2024 Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 Sadly another waste of time and energy? These little kick backs allowed by government for supposed discussion are a sop to remove the energy from the situation? By the time any so called discussion is allowed its after another very boozy lunch when all participants are sleepy? Problem solved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted December 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 2 hours ago, old man said: Sadly another waste of time and energy? These little kick backs allowed by government for supposed discussion are a sop to remove the energy from the situation? By the time any so called discussion is allowed its after another very boozy lunch when all participants are sleepy? Problem solved? I dont 100 agree, im sure you've heard of the saying "do what you've always done, and you will get what you've always got" We vote (or many do) we try to do something to change the way things are, or we just sit back and do nothing and let the problem grow and grow and we continue to accept whats happening. These little wasted moments of "our" time create discussion and awareness (not that nobody is aware of the problem) we can but try. Anyway have a happy new year "old man" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 31, 2024 Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 On 29/12/2024 at 22:38, BobbyH said: No no, I mean what could they actually physically do? What would you do to stop it? That's why Rwanda was such a good idea, and also why the likes of Starmer and Raynor worked so hard to block it. It would have worked, that's the gutting thing it would have worked. Monday they come ashore, Tuesday they are processed, Wednesday they are on a plane and then they start the asylum application in Rwanda No exceptions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted December 31, 2024 Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 40 minutes ago, Vince Green said: That's why Rwanda was such a good idea, and also why the likes of Starmer and Raynor worked so hard to block it. It would have worked, that's the gutting thing it would have worked. Monday they come ashore, Tuesday they are processed, Wednesday they are on a plane and then they start the asylum application in Rwanda No exceptions Why waste time on the Tuesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted December 31, 2024 Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 2 hours ago, Dougy said: I dont 100 agree, im sure you've heard of the saying "do what you've always done, and you will get what you've always got" We vote (or many do) we try to do something to change the way things are, or we just sit back and do nothing and let the problem grow and grow and we continue to accept whats happening. These little wasted moments of "our" time create discussion and awareness (not that nobody is aware of the problem) we can but try. Anyway have a happy new year "old man" Thanks bud, you too. Maybe Garlands sometime? I understand your attempts but know none of the existing clowns are going to vote to close the circus? They employ hundreds to keep their way of life? 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: That's why Rwanda was such a good idea, and also why the likes of Starmer and Raynor worked so hard to block it. It would have worked, that's the gutting thing it would have worked. Monday they come ashore, Tuesday they are processed, Wednesday they are on a plane and then they start the asylum application in Rwanda No exceptions Hundreds of lawyers say "no way" Money to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted Wednesday at 10:37 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 10:37 22 hours ago, London Best said: Why waste time on the Tuesday? You need time to finger print them, photograph them and take their DNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted Wednesday at 11:02 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:02 23 minutes ago, Vince Green said: You need time to finger print them, photograph them and take their DNA Who cares? If we are not letting them stay anyway, put them straight on a plane. The BIG mistake is letting them set foot on British soil in the first place. They should be repelled at sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted Wednesday at 15:47 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 15:47 3 hours ago, London Best said: Who cares? If we are not letting them stay anyway, put them straight on a plane. The BIG mistake is letting them set foot on British soil in the first place. They should be repelled at sea. But they DO set foot on British soil and so we have to document them and have them medically assessed and do all the right things because we are the good guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted Wednesday at 16:55 Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 16:55 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: But they DO set foot on British soil and so we have to document them and have them medically assessed and do all the right things because we are the good guys. A big problem is we they do not document them all. only the ones they are aware of, there are many many more that go under the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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