Whimple Hunter Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 hia .my uncle has a nice 12g pump action and i find it great for Squirrels.what do you think of a 12g pump.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopy bunny blaster Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 totally depends which pump lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I regret selling my Bennelli as it was fun once you you remember to cycle it. Easier said than done when your in a hide and the action is slow LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 totally depends which pump lol True! Back in the 70's I had a Remington 870 Wingmaster. Couldn't fault it, but then I would not trash any other make as I have never used them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I think that pump actions have their place in the world of guns. I just dont think that its in our particular part of it. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 No, it's in Mungler's part of the world, for when he wants to make a "Cash Withdrawl" (if you know what I mean) Saying that, I wouldn't mind a pump 12ga, if only for the sound of it. It would also scare the **** out of people down at the clay range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I think that pump actions have their place in the world of guns. I just dont think that its in our particular part of it. webber Yes, I agree. I ditched mine in the 80's. I always think of Hungerford when I see a pump. I see one or two clay-shooters from time to time; they have a certain menacing grimmace when they cycle the piece; then they turn round, chav-like, and smirk; do they have to dress up as Rambo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I think that pump actions have their place in the world of guns. I just dont think that its in our particular part of it. webber Yes, I agree. I ditched mine in the 80's. I always think of Hungerford when I see a pump. I see one or two clay-shooters from time to time; they have a certain menacing grimmace when they cycle the piece; then they turn round, chav-like, and smirk; do they have to dress up as Rambo? Like you say - chavs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salisburykeeper Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I cant see the use for pump actions for hunting, perhaps rather than joining the local clay club you could join the local swat team i hear there is no shortage of quarry in the inner city areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie 1 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Well i have a mossberg 500 pump and must say it does have its place. when i went drey poking last year it was a pain to carry the poles and the over and under over my arm, but the other blokes i went shooting with all had pumps and they came in very handy when you poke a drey and 4 or 5 squizzels apear. but this year i will be taking my pump. And i havn't found a nice semi for the same price as a pump. IMO it depends what you want to use it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I always think of pump actions as crowd control weapons, which is what I think they were originally intended for! webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I use a synthetic-stocked Remmie 870 Express for a few tasks, mainly when I am rough shooting in really grim conditions. It's a very safe gun to use, and one that I can carry on a sling over my back. I leave the bolt retracted unless I am ready to shoot. In some ways it's safer than an O/U or S/S, where people tend to rely on safety catches. Plus it's a big, heavy gun, so shooting punchy cartridges is never a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I always think of pump actions as crowd control weapons, which is what I think they were originally intended for! webber next we'll have them suggested for shooting pheasants on driven days along with semi - autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_colt Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I think that pump actions have their place in the world of guns. I just dont think that its in our particular part of it. webber Yes, I agree. I ditched mine in the 80's. I always think of Hungerford when I see a pump. I see one or two clay-shooters from time to time; they have a certain menacing grimmace when they cycle the piece; then they turn round, chav-like, and smirk; do they have to dress up as Rambo? While Michael Ryan owned at least 1 pump I think. The weapons used that horrible day were: Norinco type 56 7.62mm self loading rifle, M1 Garand .30 Self loading rifle and a Beretta 9mm pistol. A firearm has no intent regardless of it's method of action. That lies purely with the user; Ryan was delusional, manipulative and paranoid. Not to mention severe anger management issues. He threatened people with flick-knives and his 9mm several times in the years leading up to the massacre. These people clearly knew who he was, some were even (former) workers at the various employeer's Ryan drifted to and from. He also had held a shotgun certificate since the late 70's and had discharged it at pests in neighbours back gardens without their permission or due dilligence to safety (This was on a council housing estate for crying out loud.) He also kept some of his shotguns in an insecure wooden potting shed in his back garden. Neighbour testimony has stated he may have left his SLR's in there at some point as opposed to the Chubb cabinet fitted in his bedroom. Ryan may have been able to function well enough to mask his underlying mental problems from the police and officials but; with the people he had "disagreements" with it was a different story. If only one of them had had the courage to report his behaviour to the police; the massacre might of been prevented. Athlough Ryan was probably clever enough to acquire weapons illegally, at least being known to the police may have limited his efforts. It amazes people when I tell them at the time there were only 4 police helecopters nationwide. Armed response in around 2 hours to a rural town was considered quite fast back then. I can't fault the officers involved on the ground; The AFO team only had revolvers, a couple of pump-action shotguns and one sub-calibre rifle. Their body armour was only proof to standard pistol rounds. They couldnt act till the Assistant Chief Constable had given authority to do so. It was only down to luck that the officers were training at Otmoor that any AFO's were on duty at all. The way it was back then may be completely incomprensible to some. But we can't change the past. We can only try to ensure history remains true to the actual events and that current opinions are not based on factual misconceptions. Though the mass media will always be at odds with this. mr_colt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 There's nothing that a pumper can do that a decent semi-auto won't do better :stupid: Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 hia .my uncle has a nice 12g pump action and i find it great for Squirrels.what do you think of a 12g pump.? Bit of a change to an O/U 20g! If I'm honest I'd say that the more traditional gun is better for a beginner, as it allows others around you to see an open gun and feel more comfortable. A pump will also wipe out any chances of shooting on a game shoot if invited. If the gun isn't a heavy one, it will also kick hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonna Shoot a Wabbit Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 There's nothing that a pumper can do that a decent semi-auto won't do better :stupid: Don Pains me to agree with the aged one..... but he is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopy bunny blaster Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 There's nothing that a pumper can do that a decent semi-auto won't do better :stupid: Don there is, they have their place in the world, in the army, if you are relying on your weapon to work. you are depending on it to keep you alive and a semi could jam, a pump will work every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 i have a remmy 870 wingmaster, and its a very good gun, no trouble at all with it done a lot of shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Each to his own. John Stafford World DTL Chamion used to use a Remington Wingmaster when he was a youth and very good he was. Not seen anyone else use one at clays successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Gordon, get yourself down to Essex and behold the Mungler with his Mossberg and replacement barrel with 1/2" choke. The gaunlet is down for any takers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Mungler - your modesty is commendable. Even more so, if it matched by your ability. I started out with a Smith and Wesson pump 916a, but never mastered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Coughs: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...t=0&start=0 And Bagsy knows he got off lightly.... I messed about at the end taking pairs in reverse.... And with my eyes shut Seriously though, get the right pump with a good fit and there is *nothing* you can't do with it (and, when you do splat a fast pair going away it's magic....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Mungler - there are excellent photos of fine figures of men, in fact several men. As a reformed 24 stone, now a trim 18 stone, I feel well qualified to sit in judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Mos 500 ATP, slug barrel = cyl on sec 1 8 shot I bought it for rabbit shooting from the back of vehicle at harvest time. I didn't recon much on bashing my best sidelock about in the back of a landy. It took a bit of use to master it but I used to use it most of the time. The only thing about it was that it is a 3"mag so you got to pump it real fast or the mag will spit out one and a bit carts and jam the elevator. I soon got used to it and I like it still. I laugh at all the crowd control stuff and it kicks hard . It's just a tube of metal. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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