ferreter10 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Used to use eley HBs and they were great. went down to the local gunnshop to buy some more and they ddnt have any. I asked what else they had and was quite keen to sell me the D and Js. Went roosting the next day, and i honestly shot 45 carts for 5 pigeons!!! Usually i hit them 2 to 1 with eley HBs whats going on??? Could any1 tell me the speed of these D&Js?? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy1957 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 They are #### - i'm using 32g Special pigeon from Countryways in West Malling,they are made by Lyvale,only come in 5's and hit hard,about £180 a thousand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Could any1 tell me the speed of these D&Js?? 15mph when they're being thrown in the bin. I tried D&J's once and found them to be very dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 To be honest yes there dirty but they will kill if you do your bit Keep it close until you have shot them all and don't buy them again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I have used the 7 1/2's and 6's in the past and I never have had a problem with them. I think if they are pointed in the right direction they will kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joknob Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I have used the 7 1/2's and 6's in the past and I never have had a problem with them. I think if they are pointed in the right direction they will kill. i wish my wife was as dirty as those d&js.craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 D&Js are dirtier than a Turkish dockside hooker, kick like a rabid mule, but in fairness will kill well if put in the right place. When they were cheap and nasty, game on. Now they arent cheap but still nasty, ta but no ta. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo2005 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 **** , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I find them ok but its a full choke s/a I use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I'd rather any other cart but I'll use em if I have to it's better than throwing stones at the pigeons ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Nothing wrong with D&Js; just poor-shot pussycats who use them. Shoot them at a dustbin at 40 yards and then ask yourself if you'd take its place. Looking up a barrel after firing is fine if you think there is a blockage, but to comment on 'dirt' in a barrel is a bit housewifey!!! Edited February 12, 2010 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferreter10 Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I'd rather any other cart but I'll use em if I have to it's better than throwing stones at the pigeons ? I dont know, i probably would have got more by throwing the cartridges at the pigeons!! I even missed a sitter(well its probably got a sore a*se)!! I have to say i hate them, AND I SHALL NEVER BUY THEM AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 You need to go to Specsavers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 You need to go to Specsavers! or maybe the clay ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Always called them "dirty jacks" Used once never again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teal27 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I use to use them all the time for decoying pigeon and never missed at one point, until one day i bought some more and couldnt hit a bird, You get good batches and bad but its not worth the risk or money just incase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mec 9000 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Clean barrels never killed anything. I tried D&J for some clay busting and found that they did the job once I found the lead, they seemed to me to be entry level clay loads and were cheap enough at the time. But for Game ,fowl or pigeon give me my home loads every time. Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Clean barrels never killed anything. I tried D&J for some clay busting and found that they did the job once I found the lead, they seemed to me to be entry level clay loads and were cheap enough at the time. But for Game ,fowl or pigeon give me my home loads every time.Gerry Spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Nothing wrong with D&Js; just poor-shot pussycats who use them. Shoot them at a dustbin at 40 yards and then ask yourself if you'd take its place. Looking up a barrel after firing is fine if you think there is a blockage, but to comment on 'dirt' in a barrel is a bit housewifey!!! That just about sums it up There's nothing wrong with them really, they're a long way from being the best, but all this tripe about "dirt" makes me laugh. It's nothing that a quick swipe with a boresnake won't shift. I think Zapp hit the nail on the head though. When they were cheap - fair enough. But they're not cheap now, so I don't see the point. There are better cartridges for that sort of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySmith Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Tried,or rather was given(wonder why) the 32-6, found them 'lumpy' for want of a better word, and a fair amount of kick, worked though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 You're too fussy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Bought my mate some 28g 7 1/2 a couple of years back as he wanted some fairly cheap carts for some pigeon decoying. We killed 138 and he was knocking them down left, right and centre at good ranges. He was quite impressed with them. I don't know why anyone would worry about dirty barrels, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 yeah they are dirty, but, put a load a choke and point it in the right place, you get a nice feeling thumping stuff down. i`ve only fired a crate off. wouldnt use them for game birds though. they were cheap. like a budgie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 i wish my wife was as dirty as those d&js.craig She is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyflier Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I'm pleased someone started this thread.................... I began to think it was me A friend gave me a few to try and I was completely underwhelmed! I wonder if the antimony is wrong? I gave the birds more leade, then less leade, then at a ruddy pigeon which sat on a branch above me, the blasted thing flew off until I quickly rattled a Rio into it It didn't fly no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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