Fisherman Mike Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 The Woodcock is wonderful shy retiring wader often refusing to be put to flight until the very last minute. Generally fly at night on their migration. They don’t eat Crops and do zero damage. They are not bred captively to be released and shot, offer very little meat and I cant really see the point in gunning them down for the sake of ones own self esteem. They are in decline nationally along with Snipe and Jacksnipe. I leave them alone as I like to see them about. Why do other members feel it necessary to shoot Woodcock ? This is a serious question not a criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I don't shoot them. I like to eat what I shoot, and as you say, next to nothing on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) Not a great deal on them but what there is is worth its wait in gold to me i absolutely love it i very rarely hit them but see a hell of alot where i shoot so dont mind taking the odd brace Edited November 15, 2010 by TJ91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Not a great deal on them but what there is is worth its wait in gold to me i absolutely love it i very rarely hit them but see a hell of alot where i shoot so dont mind taking the odd brace I'm quite the reverse - The meat is like the strongest liver i've ever had - I like gamey meat, but woodcock is a touch too much for my delicate constitution. As such. they are off the FCS quarry list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I'm quite the reverse - The meat is like the strongest liver i've ever had - I like gamey meat, but woodcock is a touch too much for my delicate constitution. As such. they are off the FCS quarry list! and i love liver..kidney.. there isnt many parts of an animal i wont eat and there isnt any animal i have tried that i dont like! woodcock, teal and canada goose are at the top of my eating list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbird Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 i never shoot at them. they remind me of misiles i would only be wasting my ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin vs Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 They are a testing shot and lovely to eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b682 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Numbers look down so far on last year at the little shoot I belong to, so I am leaving them to fly on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvbus Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I'm with TJ, best game meat out there, and more on them than you would think. In deference to quoted numbers I have been seeing more woodcock year on year, plus their numbers are being swelled massively at this time of year by the migrant birds. Each to their own though, I like to see hares when out and about so don't shoot them unless asked...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I dont like the taste of them, so I dont shoot them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbrit Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 The Woodcock is wonderful shy retiring wader often refusing to be put to flight until the very last minute. Generally fly at night on their migration. They don’t eat Crops and do zero damage. They are not bred captively to be released and shot, offer very little meat and I cant really see the point in gunning them down for the sake of ones own self esteem. They are in decline nationally along with Snipe and Jacksnipe. I leave them alone as I like to see them about. Why do other members feel it necessary to shoot Woodcock ? This is a serious question not a criticism. The woodcock is not in decline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 The guys i shoot with hate them coming near me as i dont shoot them ,i did in the past but always said if i ever got a left and right i would never lift my gun to 1 again so i dont plus there very nice looking birds in flight did not know they were in decline tho where did you read or hear of this please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 A superb testing shot and also taste delicious.Not keen on seeing big bags shot but then thats just my opinion as we havent big enough numbers to get that bigger bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchie the white hunter Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 The Woodcock is wonderful shy retiring wader often refusing to be put to flight until the very last minute. Generally fly at night on their migration. They don’t eat Crops and do zero damage. They are not bred captively to be released and shot, offer very little meat and I cant really see the point in gunning them down for the sake of ones own self esteem. They are in decline nationally along with Snipe and Jacksnipe. I leave them alone as I like to see them about. Why do other members feel it necessary to shoot Woodcock ? This is a serious question not a criticism. where are the numbers in decline where are you getting the info from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perazzi82 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 i have to admit that woodcock dont often offer a real test of marksmanship, and they are quite easy to knock down. i am by no means sore on them, i would shoot about a dozen each season. its the thrill about never knowing when they will spring up that gets me going. i disagree about the comparison to liver, dont think they are anything remotely like liver, and they have ample meat on them. put it this way, they have as much on them as a teal if not more. like sako i cant abide anyone who would look to shoot big bags of woodcock, but i know it goes on unfortunately. its a very short season on them, and they are widespread throughout the uk when they arrive from russia etc, so i feel justified in potting a few for the soup pot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Woodcock can be testing, and on occasion present a dangerous shot. I've shot towards several over the years but never hit one; not because I couldn't hit it, but because I didn't wish to, but also didn't wish to face the wrath of other guns for not taking the shots. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mls77 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Dog put a couple up saturday but didnt raise the gun to them. Must say there definately not on the decline down my way there seem to be more each year. I will only shoot a couple throughout the season as i just like to see them flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Numbers on our shoot are building (since 1995) and looking back through out shoot log the best month by far is January. Most of out syndicate have stopped shooting them when they break from cover and are shot from behind but we take a small number in front when they are driven. If the numbers shot were considered high compared with he numbers we flushed the concensus would be to stop shooting them. Delightful little game bird that are a treat to eat and always a sporting shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 The Woodcock is wonderful shy retiring wader often refusing to be put to flight until the very last minute. Generally fly at night on their migration. They don’t eat Crops and do zero damage. They are not bred captively to be released and shot, offer very little meat and I cant really see the point in gunning them down for the sake of ones own self esteem. They are in decline nationally along with Snipe and Jacksnipe. I leave them alone as I like to see them about. Why do other members feel it necessary to shoot Woodcock ? This is a serious question not a criticism. I think: 1) they taste good,(as do snipe) 2) there is a fair bit on them! 3) they are not easy to shoot,(although some easier than others). 4) I am not aware of any decline? 5) I don't like liver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Liver???? I alway think it tastes like bacon and eggs plenty of meat too, enough for brekfast for me and the missus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 The woodcock is not in decline Your source ?? I beg to differ, with respect, both Woodcock, Snipe and Jacksnipe are SPEC European Conservation status. Categorised as a Species of European Conservation Concern BTO Amber list. Birds showing marked decline over a 10 year recording period last census results 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Why do other members feel it necessary to shoot Woodcock ? This is a serious question not a criticism. Taste, purely and simply, why do people eat chocolate, taste....... why do people eat quails eggs......why do people eat mussels...... Woodcock, grouse, teal, in no particular order, all small, all (bar possibly teal) not very numerous, but all soooooooooooo very tasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) Your source ?? I beg to differ, with respect, both Woodcock, Snipe and Jacksnipe are SPEC European Conservation status. Categorised as a Species of European Conservation Concern BTO Amber list. Birds showing marked decline over a 10 year recording period last census results 2009. Any idea why the numbers have declined? Is it habitat, adverse weather? What were the numbers and what are they now? Is the "problem" localised e.g. numbers are poor in the South West? Is shooting an issue? If so why and where should there be more restraint? Edited November 15, 2010 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 its true across parts of mainland Europe woodcock are in decline mainly due to over shooting. But in the UK there is no evidence of this , but numbers vary widely between winters. I survey breeding woodcock in Norfolk and our woods have between 5 and 12 roding males , but there is no trend up or down. Flighting woodcock at dusk are one of the hardest birds to hit and even driven birds provide a sporting shot. As for their eating qualities , they are good to eat. There is nothing wrong with shooting them as long as you do not over do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 its true across parts of mainland Europe woodcock are in decline mainly due to over shooting. But in the UK there is no evidence of this , but numbers vary widely between winters. I survey breeding woodcock in Norfolk and our woods have between 5 and 12 roding males , but there is no trend up or down. Flighting woodcock at dusk are one of the hardest birds to hit and even driven birds provide a sporting shot. As for their eating qualities , they are good to eat. There is nothing wrong with shooting them as long as you do not over do it. Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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