blackbird Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Hi on rabbits what is the effective killing range with a 410 shotgun :hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Bout 25yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 un moderated i take it? depends on the cartridges, 2.5 or 4 inch, and shot size, but with 2.5 6's i'd say 25 yards tops, 3 inch 5s's, if they pattern well, 30-35 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) 25 to thirty yards if you can shoot. They only throw a small pattern Edited January 26, 2012 by Mike525steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I can kill rats at a known distance of up to 60 feet (20 yards or 18.2 metres). This is with a Mossberg .410 pump action, full choke with either 2.5 or 3 inch shells. I haven't had to shoot any at a greater distance. Be wary of peoples quotes on distance as many can't really judge correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Hi on rabbits what is the effective killing range with a 410 shotgun :hmm: About 20 ft if you can throw it hard enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 un moderated i take it? depends on the cartridges, 2.5 or 4 inch, and shot size, but with 2.5 6's i'd say 25 yards tops, 3 inch 5s's, if they pattern well, 30-35 yards. 4inch :o :o :o Now thats a cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 i shot a squirrel monday at about 25 yards and it killed it but when i took a good look only two pellets had hit it i did a pattern test on mine and i think that was its limit to be honest, i was using eley 3inch 18g 6s colin it was a 28inch barrel that i cut down to 24.5 so it now has no choke so i guess thats why the pattern had a few holes in it at that range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Hi on rabbits what is the effective killing range with a 410 shotgun :hmm: Same as a 12g if the patterns in the right place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 4" ultra super long magnum, actually quite a common cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Same as a 12g if the patterns in the right place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Yep 25yards, have done longer shots but! I like 7s or 8s in my fourtens, a denser cloud usually gets them in the head and neck. I have done a few driven pheasant days with a fourten with 7s homeloads. A gun in our syndicate had just had surgury on his neck and feared shooting. I offered him a shoot of my fourten double and he was very impressed at how well he did! Fourtens, love m'. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 4inch :o :o :o Now thats a cartridge woops, fat fingers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 woops, fat fingers! Damm. I was getting all excited then :drool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 i could probably make you one up. Absolutely no guarantees it would be safe or even work... :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywoodsman Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 With full choke and 3 inch magnums around 30 yds,really enjoy shooting a 410,great guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldivalloch Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Mike525steel - it's a common misconception that the smaller bores throw a smaller spread. They don't. The difference in spread between a full-choke 28 bore and a full-choke 12 bore is negligible. And a .410 cartridge, loaded to achieve the same velocity as a 12 bore cartridge and firing the same size of pellet, will have the same killing range. The critical factor in determining effective range is PATTERN. Density of pattern depends primarily upon degree and quality of choke, and weight of load. Generally speaking, a .410 cartridge carries a lighter charge of shot than a 12 bore cartridge. If each has the same degree of choke, and the pellet size is the same, then the .410 obviously has far fewer pellets with which to form its pattern and so the pattern will begin to fail, i.e. become patchy, at a considerably shorter range. I'm always surprised to hear people sing the praises of the 3-inch .410 cartridge. It's technically enormously flawed in that it packs its already excessive load into a long, thin column. Long shot columns bring higher pressures, higher pressures cause more shot deformation, and the long shot column causes stringing and inherently poor patterning. If you want to fire a load of twenty or so grammes, the most effective way to do so is through a 20 bore. Horses for courses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Love my 410 for rabbits, but anything with wings - Fuggedaboutit!! Know your limits!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 4" ultra super long magnum, actually quite a common cartridge Hahaha I think its a punt gun round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny_blaster Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love the .410, it really is my favourite gun to shoot and great for just mooching along hedgerows or through woods. I to prefer 7's and have shot one of my highest pigeons with my old O/U .410. Like has been said 25-30 yards is the norm. Cheers Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 The 410 was never designed as a high powered hard hitting long distance calibre. Various attempts at High Power heavier cartridge manufacture have not really changed that, they are just expensive and tend to hurt you when you pull the trigger. If you want a 410 then best to keep it for close range small vermin, distance wise, it is up to the shooters ability. Pattern plates are easy, any board will do if you don't have the right thing, and then you can see the spread for yourself. Try different distances, and start close, I think EVERY shogun owner should try a pattern plate, many will get a wake up call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peathag Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 About 20 ft if you can throw it hard enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Love my 410 for rabbits, but anything with wings - Fuggedaboutit!! Know your limits!! I agree and have doubts about the claims by Richard Brigham in Sporting Gun regarding his claims of red letter days over decoys with a moderated .410 pump. If only it were possible I would buy one like a shot but the fact is that a .410 is a very short range gun apart from the odd fluke shot because the pattern just doesn't hold up past about 25yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peathag Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Love my 410 for rabbits, but anything with wings - Fuggedaboutit!! Know your limits!! Doesn't make sense to me - no reason whatsoever that a bird could not be killed and a rabbit could, providing both are within the effective range of calibre and cartridge choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 He may mean rabbits sit still don't no of a bird on the quarry list that hoovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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