mr williamson Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I like the flat tragectory of the 177 compared to 22 but how do they cope on the rabbits. Im a firm beleiver in head shots as o like to kill humainly. Have any of you or do any of you hunt with this small calibre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I do and hunt mostly rabbits. There's no problem with .177 and shooting rabbits! Like you, I always shoot head shots and have never had a problem with the smaller pellets. Indeed, now that I'm shooting with a .177 (I used to have a .22), I'm getting much cleaner kills because of the flatter trajectory; you get a wider margin for error of range. You have to be a bit more careful with the wind, but there's more than enough energy transfer to dispatch a rabbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambsman Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I use a .22 and a .177 - both kill equally well with a good clean head shot in my experience. .177 is a flatter trajectory so a bit easier sometimes - if it's windy then I use the .22 and also try and sneak up closer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr williamson Posted June 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Thanks lads 177 it is. I know there much more accurate but wasnt sure how the hunt. Thnks again lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 .177 is just as good in the wind as .22 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 This should answer your question Mr Williamson http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/212098-air-arms-s410/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 They roll over and kick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) In .177 Bisley magnums at 10.65 grain knock them down dead. And you get a good pellet spread dumping the pellets kinetic energy in to the target so a small entry hole and a bigger exit hole. RWS Superdomes or RWS Superfield work well very accurate. Crosman premier magnums are very accurate and well finished. But the Bisley magnums are very hard hitting and a soft lead so they spread on impact and i find they give the best results. Bisley pest control work well to up to 35 yds but are not as accurate as the magnums. Edited June 23, 2012 by NIGHT SEARCHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbsguy Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 the rabbits can't tell the difference between a head shot from a .22 and .177 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I used to shoot all kinds of vermin with my .177 back in my salad days. I was a crack shot with that gun because I spent all my spare time shooting it. I thought it was powerful at the time. Later found out it was only just over eight ft lb energy. If you hit rabbits in the right place, they'll drop alright with a .177. I used to aim down their earhole if they were facing away at an angle. Can't remember ever hitting one and just wounding it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 In .177 Bisley magnums at 10.65 grain knock them down dead. And you get a good pellet spread dumping the pellets kinetic energy in to the target so a small entry hole and a bigger exit hole. you don't actually need a particularly heavy pellet. Standard pellets are fine. I use good old H&N FTT dome heads. Never had a problem yet; all nice and clean kills. The heavy pellet might be useful in the wind, but in most conditions the FTTs are fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Always had a CZ .177 for rabbits, replaced it with a CZ.22 and wasn't as happy due to the loopy trajectory. Ended up buying an HW97K in .177 for bunnies instead. The .22 I prefer for pigeons though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 hunt with both, both work very well with good headshots, however i have had my first runner two nights ago clean head shot but it decided to run 15 yards before dying. Happens i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomSteebs Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 much like you, i prefer the trajectory of the .177 as i can use higher mags. i have however noticed a few more runners with a .177 then with .22. now i am not a believer in .22 for hunting and .177 for target, as i just buy whatever calibre comes up. i hit a rabbit directly in the between the ears on the back of the head and it just ran off with a .177, a few other times they had ran or managed to scramble to their holes with normal head shots. my only explanation is their is less damage to the brain instantly so they have a small window of extra control. i did however get more rabbits in a shorter period of time with the .177 though (and that was a springer) compared to pcp. i would say, choose the gun you want first and the calibre later, if you have a choice go for .177. atb tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hit them in the right place and calibre is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iced Tiger Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Agreed, I use 177 all the time and have had no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefy Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 what sort of distance will 177 kill at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 what sort of distance will 177 kill at As far as you are able to reliably put them. If you can take them at 45 yards then 45 yards. I think most people stick to the 30 yard mark though - the variables in the field are more unpredictable than target shooting where you get previous shots to guage windage etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomSteebs Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 what sort of distance will 177 kill at it can kill as far as it can carry around 3ft lb's (around 150yards ish) as for what the norm is probably people shoot at 35yards, i was getting them at 45+ fairly often which a hw97 in .177. just depends how confident you are. PEA P- practice (how confident and able are you) E- environment (what re the conditions like) A- accuracy (how accurate is the pellet and rifle combination) atb tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpa Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I used .22 in air guns for hunting for 20 years but lately have switched to .177 and much prefer it for the flatter trajectory. I found that the Logun Penetrators gave even better accuracy than the AA Fields, and by shooting off sticks as with deer stalking you can get accurate headshots at 40 - 45 yards once you know the hold over off by heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I used .22 in air guns for hunting for 20 years but lately have switched to .177 and much prefer it for the flatter trajectory. I found that the Logun Penetrators gave even better accuracy than the AA Fields, and by shooting off sticks as with deer stalking you can get accurate headshots at 40 - 45 yards once you know the hold over off by heart. They are good pellets, I can't help thinking they'd sell more if it wasn't for the silly name - especially as they look like a miniature dildo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSAHunter Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 ive allways gone for 177 for rabbits, the only time ive ever really had a issue with 177 on rabbits is when the quarry have been generally closer the 20yards which is fairly rare for rabbits anyway! as the "THUMPING" force from a greater distance is lost and the 177 pellets becomes a straight in straight out ammo which sometimes allows the rabbits nerves to continue long enough to get back to there holes before relizing there already dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) I have my zero range on my .177 set to 35 metres which is 38.27 yards, where I hunt has bog all cover and 35 metres is perfect for my use. Edited July 9, 2012 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 had more head shot runners with .177 , .22 would knock them flat over . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 had more head shot runners with .177 , .22 would knock them flat over . I would agree .22 16g hits them very hard,I get almost none that kick about all over after head shots they nearly all just freeze up,.22 BSA Ultra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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