Liam-1990 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 What is the killing range in reality for a full choke 12 bore, I know it depends on skill, cartridge, shot size and luck but for arguements sake lets say 30g of 6s at a pigeon through full choke. Ive heard people say 60/70 yards and others saying 30 whats your thoughts or best long shots ? Ive killed a pigeon at about 70yrds but it was a fluke and not something I can do consistanly. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 kill it ...i couldnt see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 So many variables on this that its impossible to answer.With luck and heavy shot it is theoretically possible to kill out to near 150 yards but in practice its not even worth attempting.Best answer I can offer is what range can you constantly hit a pigeon at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam-1990 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) So many variables on this that its impossible to answer.With luck and heavy shot it is theoretically possible to kill out to near 150 yards but in practice its not even worth attempting.Best answer I can offer is what range can you constantly hit a pigeon at? consistantly 25-35 yards but have had a fair few around 40 but have missed them at 10 yrds but Im not the most experienced shot. Edited December 31, 2012 by Liam-1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 It really depends on what you can kill em at, there are some fieldsport episodes with George Digweed shooting crows and pigeons out to 100yds, consistantly crumplin them at 80yds. I'm confident around the 40/50yds with some choke and as far as I will shoot em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 consistantly 25-35 yards but have had a fair few around 40 but have missed them at 10 yrds but Im not the most experienced shot. ive said it before and il say it again.Id let you shoot at me at 70yards with 6s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunneravi Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 ive said it before and il say it again. Id let you shoot at me at 70yards with 6s Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmo Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 an old gamekeeper told me years ago.if you can see the white ring around it's neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 60 yards with 6s is doable, the main problem consistency wise is the shooter. The vast majority will not be able to put the shot in the right place even half the time, so should not be attempted. Ps George doesn't not shoot live game out to 100 yards with a shotgun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 ive said it before and il say it again. Id let you shoot at me at 70yards with 6s Have you got a screw loose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 EdSolomons-with respect there are several clips on youtube showing George shooting pigeons at,and over,100 yards-was watching one recently where he was hitting them over 80 yards out and then,if the bird didnt look to be dead,he was hitting them again as they fell.Unless,of course,he was fibbing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 i think the question was about ballistics and what range has a no6 shot still got the killing potential .i dont have the ancer but if you look on this web site 3/4 down http://www.jonathan-spencer.co.uk/Reference/Guns/Shotgun/Ammo/Shotsize.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Happy to directed to the clip where he claims to be shooting them at over 100 yards.... 60, 70, 80 yards I have no problem with, over 100 I suspicious. Heard the bloke commentating saying some were approaching 100 but this is not the same, and they tend to over exagerate on those programmes sadly. Ill sk him at the next shoot were both at and come back with his reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 It's hard to see how you could hold a reliable killing pattern at those ranges without vapourising the closer ones, but he does seem to pull off some astounding shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 kill it ...i couldnt see it Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 ive said it before and il say it again. Id let you shoot at me at 70yards with 6s I`ll stand next to you, as long as I can wear my full shooting coat and hat and have my back to the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Is the OP asking out of curiosity to see what a cartridge can do, or is he asking as a new shooter so he can get an idea of what he can realistically set himself? If the question is purely to see what a cartridge can do then George Digweed seems to be consistent at dropping birds at 70/80'ish yards; If you consider firstly his skill being better than most of us mere mortals, plus he probably uses the best cartridges possible since cost doesn't come into play. Therefore consistently killing birds at those ranges is probably out of most peoples reach. If you're decoying then I'd say 85% of your kills will be between 25-35 yards, another 10% 35-45 yards and 5% further or shorter than the ranges mentioned. Most importantly, keep to ranges that you are comfortable and consistently hitting at, you don't need to be shooting incredibly long ranges to have a great day out and fantastic sporting shots. PS, I wouldn't want to be shot at at 70 yards!! Cos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 no6 full choke! will kill 70yd pigeon no problem imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I`ll stand next to you, as long as I can wear my full shooting coat and hat and have my back to the gun I know a man who has done this , wouldn't recommend it obviously but crouched down with his back turned to the gun wearing a wax jacket............the pellets do not penetrate through. GD does fetch down some amazing long birds not to mention technically difficult too but he uses 35g 5's through Full choke I believe and even they wouldn't fold birds at a true 100 yards. Things can look deceiving on camera, a very long bird is probably nowhere near 80 yards in measure terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 ive said it before and il say it again. Id let you shoot at me at 70yards with 6s let me try please as long as you dont go police bleeding they would sting a tad im sure but would be funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 With a coat on its not going to sting. Bbs on the other hand. Imagine someone throwing some small shale at you (6s)or someone throwing a brick (bbs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 recon ed and george could hit them out to 80yrds but any further just not having it,but with regards shooting at someone at 70 yrds(daft post i know) well, i wouldn,t like to be in there shoes ouuuucccchhhhhh :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 ive said it before and il say it again. Id let you shoot at me at 70yards with 6s Then you sir are a fool of the highest order !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam-1990 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Im not a new shooter just out of practice really I was getting very good at clays then lost interest abit. But kept my gun and licence so had a couple of years break but have got some permission now so getting into decoying, roost shooting and rough shooting have been doing it about a year now so getting back into it but I was asking out of interest to help me understand things better and hopefully help me hit more. Thanks for the replys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I for one wouldnt like to be shot with Black Gold no6's at 70 yards through a full choke thats for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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