Which .17hmr

[beesley121]

Hi guys,

 

Just waiting for my FAC cert to fall onto the door may but whilst waiting, I'm looking at which .17HMR make/model rifle to buy.

 

Heard a lot about CZ but I want something as accurate a possible

 

On the other side of the coin, if money was no object, which .17hmr would you buy?

[malkiserow]

I suspect you pay more for better engineering on the better makes over the CZ by going to Weirhauch or Anschutz

 

I've a CZ in .17 and an Annie in .22 then I'll never take out the wrong bolt! Both are very accurate.

[mickmep]

had the same decision to make a couple of weeks ago and went for the 1517 anschutz.

bit more expensive than the cz (was looking at a 455 thumbhole) but i'm happy with the choice i made.

 

anschutz have a new deluxe thumbhole stock out which is very nice.

[iain]

CZ 452 heavy barrel 16" SAK mod and trigger kit. Put a thumbhole stock on, good scope and Die, bunny die!!

[Dead-Eyed Duck]

If you can get hold of one get a Sako Finnfire Varmint (not the existing Sako Quad).

 

I had one, and it was just as accurate as my existing Annie 1417. I sold my Sako because a back problem meant that I could not carry the weight anymore.

 

The Annie has a better two-stage trigger and thumbhole stock, but the heavier weight of the Sako meant that it was 'steadier', and easier to settle into the shot.

 

Whilst the Sako did not have a two-stage trigger, the crisp let-off of the Sako was beautiful.

[jimmyb79]

I had a Sako Quad in .17hmr. Didn't get on with it so am changing to a CZ 452 style. Got one in .22 and love it.

[team tractor]

I've shot a sako quad and hated it but love my cz 455 .

 

 

 

That was the last rabbit from last night in the far right

140yards head shot with my cz 16" varmit hmr

[Madness]

Just bought a CZ 452 in .17hmr flavour, not had time to get out and use it yet but i bought it on good recommendation

[Rimfireboy]

I'm happy with my CZ .17hmr, its spot on. Got the all weather style. Trigger kit fitted it shoots lovely.

[pork chop]

save your money buddy and get a cz ,spend the rest on a good scope and some good ammo.every cz i've had shot very well

[telf]

had both cz and annie,if i was going to buy another one it would be the annie

[masmiffy]

got cz452 fitted trigger kit cant fault it! If it misses its usually my fault.

All guns are as accurate as the person who pulls the trigger!!

As said cz (save cash) and get a good scope and mod

[Gimlet]

Very happy with my Weihrauch. It will out-shoot anyone who picks it up, which is all you can ask of a rifle, the finish has proved as tough as nails and the trigger is an absolute peach. I find the Bavarian stock a bit short in the pull in the summer whithout the padding of winter layers, but a minor detail easily fixed with a butt spacer, and the schnabel fore-end isn't good with a bipod. Not that it bothers me because I don't use them.

I'd buy another without hesitation but I'd pick a sporter stock. Less pretty but more practical than a Bavarian. Otherwise I'd have an Annie.

[markreed]

Cz 452 1" groups at 100yds what more does a man want

[snipers eye]

cz 455 16"barrel thumb hole stock,deadly out to 150 yrds on windless days

[Ccbambi]

I bought a ruger 77/17 and am impressed with it so far!

[wymberley]

The HMR relies on velocity. Consequently, assuming accuracy is a given, make sure the rifle of your choice can achieve the specified speed.

 

Anschutz.

[Gimlet]

The HMR relies on velocity. Consequently, assuming accuracy is a given, make sure the rifle of your choice can achieve the specified speed.

 

Anschutz.

 

The subject of velocity - usually in relation to barrel length - comes up regularly in HMR topics. I used to wonder sometimes what capability I might be losing, so last time, out of interest, I took my 14" HW and its usual Winchester 17 grn ammo over to my mates place and sent a few rounds through his chrono. Winchester claim a MV of 2450 fps from an unspecified barrel length - though you can bet is wasn't 14". I got an average of 2470. With a 110 yd zero I'm 2" low at 150 yds and 4" at 180 which is pretty much text book. I don't worry about it any more.

Edited August 8, 2013 by Gimlet

[kenj]

CZ 452 Varmint with 16 inch barrel, Swift mod and Harris bipod. Cannot fault it. Just keeps knocking them down without a kick out to 140 yards.

[thepasty]

I shoot a 455 16" varmint thumbhole (yo dave trigger kit), it'll tac drive at 100yrds with my furthest shot being 220yrds.

 

Very happy with it, its more accurate than I can shoot.

[wymberley]

 

The subject of velocity - usually in relation to barrel length - comes up regularly in HMR topics. I used to wonder sometimes what capability I might be losing, so last time, out of interest, I took my 14" HW and its usual Winchester 17 grn ammo over to my mates place and sent a few rounds through his chrono. Winchester claim a MV of 2450 fps from an unspecified barrel length - though you can bet is wasn't 14". I got an average of 2470. With a 110 yd zero I'm 2" low at 150 yds and 4" at 180 which is pretty much text book. I don't worry about it any more.

Forgive me, but I thought Winchester specified 2550 for their 17gn V Max. 2375 for the 20gn HP I think.The 18" Anschutz throws the 17gn at 2560 and exactly as you say from the 14" Weihrauch using the same chrono. But it just goes to show as with the Remington 17 gn also doing 2560 from the 18", from the identical zero it produces the same trajectory as you specify except for a paltry 1/2" improvement at 200 yards.

[Rimfireboy]

Forgive me, but I thought Winchester specified 2550 for their 17gn V Max. 2375 for the 20gn HP I think.The 18" Anschutz throws the 17gn at 2560 and exactly as you say from the 14" Weihrauch using the same chrono. But it just goes to show as with the Remington 17 gn also doing 2560 from the 18", from the identical zero it produces the same trajectory as you specify except for a paltry 1/2" improvement at 200 yards.

You do get a bit more velocity from the longer barrels in hmr, but weather it matters much is another thing?

[Gimlet]

Forgive me, but I thought Winchester specified 2550 for their 17gn V Max. 2375 for the 20gn HP I think.The 18" Anschutz throws the 17gn at 2560 and exactly as you say from the 14" Weihrauch using the same chrono. But it just goes to show as with the Remington 17 gn also doing 2560 from the 18", from the identical zero it produces the same trajectory as you specify except for a paltry 1/2" improvement at 200 yards.

 

That's the thing, the velocity drop from a shorter barrel is greatest at the muzzle. The extra pace from the longer barrel is scrubbed off rapidly with range, so down range where it matters it is miniscule and makes no difference worth measuring at the target.

 

Yes You're right Winchesters are 2550. I'm getting confused with my .222 ammo which are 3450.

[tjm160]

I've been delighted with my Sako Quad Synthetic. Before purchasing, I tried a friends CZ452 (Silhouette) which many on the forum seem to favour. It felt good to shoot, was light and easy to handle and is undoubtedly cheaper than the Sako. However, I preferred the higher quality feel of the Sako and finding one second hand for £650 including quality light-stream scope, for me there was no contest. Many seem to prefer wood stocks, but personally I favour the lighter weight and harder wearing synthetic. The Quad's feel and balance is outstanding and the rifle light enough to enable me to take most walk-around rabbit chest-head shots up to 80 yds standing unsupported. If time and the situation allows, dropping to prone with bipod, chest-head shots are readily realised out to 150-yds. I have ranged out to 200 yds on the mil-dots, but with wider groups, only take on corvids at the longer ranges.

 

Edited August 9, 2013 by tjm160

[Fisheruk]

Mine is a Marlin 917 vs. Great little gun. Had to renew the bolt spring after about 2000 rounds. An $8 fix.