superspark Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If our shooting sport could do with a helping hand this was very much not it !!!. Driving home from work yesterday along a busy main road between villages and there in front of me two clowns walking along with shotguns out with not a slip in site. It just begs belief. Really, what were these two shooters thinking?? its beyond me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdeor Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Did you not pull up and have a word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If our shooting sport could do with a helping hand this was very much not it !!!. Driving home from work yesterday along a busy main road between villages and there in front of me two clowns walking along with shotguns out with not a slip in site. It just begs belief. Really, what were these two shooters thinking?? its beyond me Meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 one Saturday morning I was greated by right idiot shooting out if his L200 window at sitting pigeon on tape field whilst parked in the centre of the road. The road although only a B road does get a fair big of traffic on it. He didn't seem to think he was doing much wrong God did I give him a right earful in not the most polite manner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If our shooting sport could do with a helping hand this was very much not it !!!. Driving home from work yesterday along a busy main road between villages and there in front of me two clowns walking along with shotguns out with not a slip in site. It just begs belief. Really, what were these two shooters thinking?? its beyond me As long as the guns weren't loaded they were doing nothing illegal. Sounds like a fairly rural area so shouldn't really be a problem. Might cause a bit of alarm down the local High Street though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 As long as the guns weren't loaded they were doing nothing illegal. Sounds like a fairly rural area so shouldn't really be a problem. Might cause a bit of alarm down the local High Street though! I have done this while crossing roads between permissions. As Poontang says, as long as the gun isn't loaded then it is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 If our shooting sport could do with a helping hand this was very much not it !!!. Driving home from work yesterday along a busy main road between villages and there in front of me two clowns walking along with shotguns out with not a slip in site. It just begs belief. Really, what were these two shooters thinking?? its beyond me A very regular occurrence,up this way at least and not breaking the law as long as not loaded.Saturdays round here on the smaller roads are full of shoots going on and not many eyebrows raised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 A very regular occurrence,up this way at least and not breaking the law as long as not loaded.Saturdays round here on the smaller roads are full of shoots going on and not many eyebrows raised. Yup, same around me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 It used to be a normal way of life in rural parts years ago. Now due to the hysteria surrounding guns, seeing someone with a shotgun produces a total over reaction imho. You would think the person or persons were carrying a nuclear warhead at least or some form of nerve gas in a canister. I do understand the need to be sensible and not deliberately provoke a reaction from a member of the public, however, allowing ourselves to be demonised and being driven into covert behaviour with our guns affects the legitimate country activity we hold so dear. Of course I'm not supporting walking down a high street with an un covered shotgun, that's asking for trouble. But walking up the lane to the next field, drive or otherwise.....long may it continue un interrupted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Problem is many an anti would be thinking of Raol Moat when they see someone with a shotgun regardless of legalities, knowing it's loaded etc... even a broken shotgun people have probably seen a unscrupulous character on TV slinging it up and shooting poor people dead (probably in the UK's most dangerous village - Midsomer) You may get some rural areas where it's the norm, and perhaps the lord of the manor still comes around at Xmas and hands every villager a brace of his finest pheasant - but many places people see even a childrens toy gun and start running up the road squeeling. One of my shoots if I waltzed around on the road even with gun in slip people would think i have just commited a murder whereas my other one people are much more used to seeing guns. Guess the OP's area isn't as used to the country ways as others - too many townie folk moving into the country. On another note i was in my local RFD when a 'new to the country' chap came in with his wife (you could smell them before you saw them, smelt like the perfume bar at debenhams) and he asked for a airgun so he can practise shooting at rabbits, even said "so, you just aim in the middle of it and pull the trigger yea?" thats more scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 On our syndicate we quite often cross a few road to get to different parts of our land. Guns over the arm broken and obviously unloaded dogs on leads. Rural Cornwall not a problem, centre of Manchester might be a bit different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Seems to me that people have lost a sense of perspective. Regards remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Its a busy stretch of road with lots of cars going by in each direction and there was no where safe to stop. they were not crossing the road between two fields but walking a long the road with no gates any where near. I am a shooter my self and was just thinking if any anties witnessed these two it would be ammo in their favour and I am sure they would of made a big deal of it. After all the law is the law and they were breaking it how ever you look at it. There are people out there that are just looking to start a fight and the best we can do is to not let them get their hands on it. With so many recording devices out there now its only a matter of time before things like this end up on utube and in court. I love my sport and will be dammed if some anti is going to try and take that away from me because of some simple foolish behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadbreakfast Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 We often walk our fields with the gun and don't take a slip. Will walk from field to field and down lanes with them broke and over the shoulder. some townies need to stay out of the countryside if they don't like it. Next they will be moaning about mud and horse **** on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 After all the law is the law and they were breaking it how ever you look at it .But the point is they weren't It's not illegal to carry an unloaded shotgun in a public place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) Don't **** it. If more people did and such that it was a common occurrence the less of a big deal it is. All this walking on egg shells plays into the hands of antis and alienates us. And as above, carrying an empty (and broken) shotty down a country lane isn't illegal. Edited October 31, 2013 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Its a busy stretch of road with lots of cars going by in each direction and there was no where safe to stop. they were not crossing the road between two fields but walking a long the road with no gates any where near. I am a shooter my self and was just thinking if any anties witnessed these two it would be ammo in their favour and I am sure they would of made a big deal of it. After all the law is the law and they were breaking it how ever you look at it. There are people out there that are just looking to start a fight and the best we can do is to not let them get their hands on it. With so many recording devices out there now its only a matter of time before things like this end up on utube and in court. I love my sport and will be dammed if some anti is going to try and take that away from me because of some simple foolish behaviour. Im looking at it my way and cant see how they are breaking the law.What law are they breaking? Don't **** it. If more people did and such that it was a common occurrence the less of a big deal it is. All this walking on egg shells plays into the hands of antis and alienates us. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 This is my take, I think if more shooters walked about with the guns over their shoulders (unloaded of course) then it would not be such a shock and nothing new to anyone. Therefore not ammo to the antis who want everything banned as they don't like it (including fishing I might add although they say it's too popular at the moments so not a good target!). As for the laws the law, well yes it is, and on the information given I don't believe they were breaking any . re the townie carp, im a townie, raised in the town by country parents and now moved back to a rural backwater after a short break, i often get given a load of bs by country folk due to my outrageous London accent and they're belief I have no idea, my view is that many a county bumkin makes it up as he's goes along To suit his purpose and have yet to find one who has tried to lecture me and not been able to put him right in short shrift, often with amusing consequencess like getting more permissible on one occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 It used to be a normal way of life in rural parts years ago. Now due to the hysteria surrounding guns, seeing someone with a shotgun produces a total over reaction imho. You would think the person or persons were carrying a nuclear warhead at least or some form of nerve gas in a canister. I do understand the need to be sensible and not deliberately provoke a reaction from a member of the public, however, allowing ourselves to be demonised and being driven into covert behaviour with our guns affects the legitimate country activity we hold so dear. Of course I'm not supporting walking down a high street with an un covered shotgun, that's asking for trouble. But walking up the lane to the next field, drive or otherwise.....long may it continue un interrupted +1k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdfish Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I do it all the time. And you really should know these things if you shoot superspark. I remember a similar post where a member was outraged as he could see some cartridges in a neighbours shed. Enough opposition from outsiders really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobba Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Relevant extracts fro the BASC website Carrying Firearms in public places - Section 19 of the Firearms Act 1968 makes it an offence for someone to have with them a loaded shotgun, a loaded air weapon, or any other firearm (whether loaded or not) together with ammunition suitable for use in that firearm in a public place without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on the person). The Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003 also extends the Firearms Act to include unloaded air weapons and imitation firearms. Whilst the Firearms Act does not provide a statutory definition of what is meant by “lawful authority” or “reasonable excuse”. We believe that “lawful authority” would not necessarily apply to sportsmen as this seems to relate to those issued with firearms in connection with official duties such as police or military personnel. “Reasonable excuse” would apply to sportsmen shooting over land with permission. Section 19 of the Firearms Act with regard to having a ‘firearm in a public place’ also applies and is described on page 4. This legislation applies to all public places and not just open access land. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 All perfectly legal and above board! If anyone seems a couple of people out walking to from a shoot and immeadiately things of a murder who blinded a police officer they need to get some physiological help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Happens all the time, its not illegal. Another good reason not to dress like a terrorist and carry an AR imo. Actually I avoid it mostly but its not uncommon to see one of the keepers racing along the road with a shotgun across the handlebars in the grips- you just couldn't do this in town without an ARV turning up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 All perfectly legal and above board! If anyone seems a couple of people out walking to from a shoot and immeadiately things of a murder who blinded a police officer they need to get some physiological help Psychological... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 The plonkers are the people who are alarmed by seeing anyone with a gun ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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