Markt3815 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 A bit of a daft one and will probably get lots of different views on this but here goes.. I've recently been given a wood to shoot in pigeon and vermin etc by my local keeper , i walked through the other day and knocked a huge hare up now hares around sheffield/Rotherham are rarely seen and I love to see hares in the field , the keeper would have shot it as he says it encourages dog men to come on the land the question is would you have shot it and have I gone soft .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 if the person giving you the permission want's them shot then i would i have some farm's that do so i do and some that don't so i don't if i owned the land and only had a few on it and it was my call then no as i like to see them colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 A bit of a daft one and will probably get lots of different views on this but here goes.. I've recently been given a wood to shoot in pigeon and vermin etc by my local keeper , i walked through the other day and knocked a huge hare up now hares around sheffield/Rotherham are rarely seen and I love to see hares in the field , the keeper would have shot it as he says it encourages dog men to come on the land the question is would you have shot it and have I gone soft .. No, they don't fly well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I would have left it despite really loving eating hare...I like to watch them more than eat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fse10 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 No, don't get many on my perms & like to see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 No , I would never shoot a hare in the breeding season and what the keeper does not know will not hurt him ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 No way would I shoot it. It's breeding season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira wakefield Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Agree I would leave the hares but try and hit a few more bunnies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I stopped shooting hares a few years back, we haven't got that many on the marshes and the ones that are there are safe ,we know its wrong to shoot them in the breeding season, but is it wrong to shoot pigeons when there breeding as well , in my case I do shoot pigeons all the year round but will the day come when they have a closed season on pigeons ? I think there will be one in the not to distance future........What is your thoughts on a close season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I've recently been given a wood to shoot in pigeon and verminThere's your answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I stopped shooting hares a few years back, we haven't got that many on the marshes and the ones that are there are safe ,we know its wrong to shoot them in the breeding season, but is it wrong to shoot pigeons when there breeding as well , in my case I do shoot pigeons all the year round but will the day come when they have a closed season on pigeons ? I think there will be one in the not to distance future........What is your thoughts on a close season ? Pigeons breed all through the year. At least they do in my garden. No point in a close season for something that doesn't have a certain breeding season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 There's your answer +1 A hare is neither vermin or pigeon so you haven't got permission to shoot them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionpigeons Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I never shoot hares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick morton Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 The answer to that question is no . I have a farm where i regularly see up to six hares on the fields and i have caught hare courses on there . I've given them the chance to remove the dogs from the field and to not return . It is a problem for game keepers to stop this happening . In my mind hares are a game animal and only shot in game season . I would only shoot one if it was for a very good reason. cheers mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 One estate I worked on had lots of hares and we did have some problems with poachers so hares were controlled fairly hard which did discourage them. It would be nothing to see 30+ in a single field and we used to shoot 100+ driven hares most seasons and quite a few with the rifle so it didn't have a dramatic effect on there numbers. I'm not keen on taking hares where numbers are low and it is nice to see them. If I remember correct 3 hares (and 5 rabbits) will eat the same amount as 1 sheep so where numbers are high they are just as problematic as rabbits although the numbers don't escalate as quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I never shoot hares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I never shoot hares. When it's part of your job you have to do it sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 No , I would never shoot a hare in the breeding season and what the keeper does not know will not hurt him ! that's my secret answer, I see the keepers point though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 When it's part of your job you have to do it sometimes. You have a point there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) When it's part of your job you have to do it sometimes. How is it part of his job. ? Shoot hairs to stop people with dogs killing them, that makes sense. Edited April 15, 2014 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 One of the best ways to deter hare courses is someone shooting in the fields. We get them around us but they won't run dogs when we are there shooting. I love to see those mad March hares boxing and chasing around on the early wheat fields. I used to go on big hare shoots but not been on one for many years and would decline the chance to go if they started up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamey Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Not everything with fur or feather needs to be shot. Personally I think you done right by passing on the hare - sometimes the simple things in life, such as watching nature are the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Abundant around here and we do get problems with the dog men from time to time. I shot my second hare, since i started shooting ( shot one a couple of years ago ), a couple of weeks back. I was passed on a amazing sounding recipe, junipers, forcemeat inside cavity then slow cooked in cider with root vegetables, when the perfect candidate passed within range of the muzzle loader i pulled the trigger, big old buck hare. I don't regret it but i don't shoot them often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 The obvious answer is a proper close season on hares with illegal coursers and their dogs on general license as vermin available all year round. Happy keeper, happy hares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 How is it part of his job. ? Shoot hairs to stop people with dogs killing them, that makes sense. I didn't say it was part of his job just pointing out that people such as gamekeepers have obligations to control them when they are causing problems on the land they are looking after, they can do considerable damage to crops when in abundance. The fact that it deters dogmen means you haven't got them poaching, leaving gates open, possibly stealing etc. Working all hours on a rearing field, maintaining woodland/habitats and controlling vermin is time consuming enough without running about chasing poachers into the small hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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