Frenchieboy Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I've just been speaking on the phone to one of my permission owners about some rare breed poultry that she might be interested in. The outcome was that she said wants the poultry but on a side note she said that a neighbouring smallholder has asked her if she can stop me from going there shooting. The shooting there is mainly corvids and magpies as we are trying to make the woodlands as songbird friendly as possible. The situation is that when I was up there last I shot a magpie down with the 12 bore and by all accounts the sound of the shot made this woman jump??? - I should add that at the time I was something like 100 yardfs from her property and shooting away from her land boundary so there was never any question of any safety issues being compromised. I have a very good working relationship with the owner of the permission that I shoot on and have even been there several times at short notice to deal with foxes for her (This permission is less than a 5 minute drive from my home) and she is very happy with the way I conduct myself and the way I carry out the vermin shooting both safely and efficiently. With this in mind she has told this complaining neighbour that telling me not to shoot there any more simply isn't going to happen. The ironic thing is that last year this very same neighbour asked for me to contact her to deal witrh a maurauding fox, which I did quickly and efficiently for her. And to agrevate the situation this neighbour has some pigs that keep escaping and digging in the woods where we don't really want them - The first time I saw one of the pigs in the woods I thought it was a wild boar - Thank heavens for positive target identification before taking a shot! I have agreed that i will phone the neighbour whenever I go to shoot there just to keep the peace. Has anuone else come upon this type of situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) There is almost always a neighbour somewhere.......... I get this almost every outing with the domestic fox jobs! Edited May 31, 2014 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Horse riders always complain on a few places and are so rude to me. The land owner asked me to carry on as normal and ignore them . She said please don't shoot my horses ?? I'm no where near and shooting totally the opposite way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) I was on a country road yesterday and came upon this fat rear end, the rider not the horse. This lady had a short high viz jacket on, across the shoulders in blue letters on white background was the word POLITE, in small letters drive slowly, even the band on the bottom of her hard hat was two tone blue check. I think she thought she was one of the Met mounted officers. In my area i find a lot of the riders are bolshy and dont really do themselves any favours with drivers. just my opinion. Edited May 31, 2014 by la bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Thought the sale and use use of those 'polite' vests had been stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) There is almost always a neighbour somewhere.......... I get this almost every outing with the domestic fox jobs! You are so right there, where would we be without these "tiresome" neighbours? My biggest gripe about this situation (Which I am not going to loose any sleep over) is that the same neighbour was perfectly happy for me to let cut with my unmoderated .303 only 25 yards from her mobile home right on dawn not so long ago when I was taking care of a fox that she asked me to deal with for her as it had been taking her ducks! Under the circumstances it seems a little two faced/hypocritical of her, but not to worry, maybe next time she has a "problem fox" she wants me to deal with it will be a different matter! Edit: I think we all know the saying "What goes round comes round"! Edited May 31, 2014 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Thought the sale and use use of those 'polite' vests had been stopped They should be if not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I was on a country road yesterday and came upon this fat rear end, the rider not the horse. This lady had a short high viz jacket on, across the shoulders in blue letters on white background was the word POLITE, in small letters drive slowly, even the band on the bottom of her hard hat was two tone blue check. I think she thought she was one of the Met mounted officers. In my area i find a lot of the riders are bolshy and dont really do themselves any favours with drivers. just my opinion. I sit on both sides of this particular fence. I shoot and own horses along with other livestock.in the main horses are more curious than frightened when around shooting other animals not so much.as for the polite vests they are still available but I would suggest that it is a great shame that some drivers cannot see a horse and rider when driving along country lanes but then some can't see other vehicles and walls etc.I have had the unfortunate experience to have two horses hit by cars on quiet and empty roads.perhaps the riders become bolshy because a lot of drivers think it OK to go at quite high speeds when passing them.don't just think bike when driving think Atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus1988 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I have no problems with people that ride horses on the road and have luckily never met any of the "bolshy" ones. However, am I to understand that horse riders that use the public highways do not contribute with any kind of road tax? And what percentage of the horse riders that use the road pick up the mess that the horse leaves behind? It's not so much a problem for vehicles with 4 wheels or more but I can imagine it can quite easily cause an accident when motorbikes are involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I have no problems with people that ride horses on the road and have luckily never met any of the However, am I to understand that horse riders that use the public highways do not contribute with any kind of road tax? And what percentage of the horse riders that use the road pick up the mess that the horse leaves behind? It's not so much a problem for vehicles with 4 wheels or more but I can imagine it can quite easily cause an accident when motorbikes are involved. You are absolutely correct in that we do not pay road tax.nowhere to stick the disc.also I do not pay road tax for several of my tractors. I suppose a motorcycle could come to grief on a pile of muck however if you could see the state of our country roads in Lincolnshire a bit of muck would be the least of their problems.horses are granted several rights to the roads under ancient bylaws.I do have mine insured for liability. Atb I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I have no problems with people that ride horses on the road and have luckily never met any of the "bolshy" ones. However, am I to understand that horse riders that use the public highways do not contribute with any kind of road tax? And what percentage of the horse riders that use the road pick up the mess that the horse leaves behind? It's not so much a problem for vehicles with 4 wheels or more but I can imagine it can quite easily cause an accident when motorbikes are involved. [/quote Deleted because this stupid phone posted twice. Edited May 31, 2014 by bostonmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Why should the polite horse vests not be sold, if they make people slow down that maybe wouldn't then they are a good thing. My wife has one and she thinks more people do. Which is good because some of the pricks seem to think the roads (country) are a race track, some of them could do with coming face to face with the Cat challenger or one of the bigger tractors they have on the farm near by that will slow them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Why should the polite horse vests not be sold, if they make people slow down that maybe wouldn't then they are a good thing. My wife has one and she thinks more people do. Which is good because some of the pricks seem to think the roads (country) are a race track, some of them could do with coming face to face with the Cat challenger or one of the bigger tractors they have on the farm near by that will slow them down. Because they could potentially be arrested for impersonating a police officer wearing clothing with characteristics of a police uniform - which at the end of the day is why they wear them. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319998/Whoa-Horse-riders-wearing-hi-viz-arrested-impersonating-police.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 That what had lead me to believe the sale of them had stopped obviously not. Haven't ridden for a long while on the roads I can see both sides but having had my 4x4 kicked by a rider last year, when I stopped and had a right go at her she thought I was someone else! I was going ultra slow past her on a country lane I'd never been down before. Bolshy yes she bloody was and expensive was the way I describe the bill for my new wing mirror unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) She hasn't been arrested yet wearing it and is passed quite often by police but i guess they are using a bit of common sense and can see she is wearing it for an extra bit of safety and not for anything underhanded. Edited May 31, 2014 by shootnfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) As for the original post sounds like she is being a bit ott. Where my wife keeps her horse there is a diy shoot next door and one of the drives is right next to the paddocks and fair play to them at first they would let her know the day before a shoot, but my wife said don't worry the horse will have to learn to like it. Better for her if she's riding down a road and someone is shooting nearby there's less chance of it freaking out. But even my wife says a lot of the horsey people are a funny bunch. . why has it blocked f r e a k i n g?? Edited May 31, 2014 by shootnfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Having seen the way people drive near horses up here, i don't blame people for trying to get drivers to slow down. It takes all of 30 secs to slow down and pass slow and wide. Like Bostonmick, i have seen it from both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) "Having seen the way people drive near horses up here, i don't blame people for trying to get drivers to slow down. It takes all of 30 secs to slow down and pass slow" So true but 3 questions 1:Why are "skittish"horses taken on the road? 2:Why don't they have a kill switch(Webley humane) for panic situations? 3:As a motorcycle rider are they trained to **** on the racing line or do they do it naturally? Edited May 31, 2014 by drut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I don't personally have a problem with horses and their riders on the road. I used to ride when in my youth and can see the possibilities of a horse "starting" with a motor going past either too quickly and unexpectedly or noisily and too close. I always make a point of slowing down for horses, to me this is nothing more than common sense and consideration for others, regardless of what they are wearing, but this has wandered off the original point a little. I visited the lady who owns the land that I shoot on yestaerday evening to deliver some rare breed hens and she suspects that this neighbour was just having a bad hair day, (either that or she was in bed with someone and my shot made them jump right at a crucial moment and it put them off their stroke) and she has told me that if there are any other texts complaining she will go and have a few words with the neighbour on my behalf, but under no circumstances should I stop going there to shoot just because of this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) (either that or she was in bed with someone and my shot made them jump right at a crucial moment and it put them off their stroke) ! I can see why she may be a bit upset if that's the case especially if the lad concerned lost his zero for a second or 2 and tapped the wrong target. Edited June 1, 2014 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Why not go round to the neighbour & apologise. You might even gain another permission if you explain what you were doing & why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I was on a country road yesterday and came upon this fat rear end, the rider not the horse. This lady had a short high viz jacket on, across the shoulders in blue letters on white background was the word POLITE, in small letters drive slowly, even the band on the bottom of her hard hat was two tone blue check. I think she thought she was one of the Met mounted officers. In my area i find a lot of the riders are bolshy and dont really do themselves any favours with drivers. just my opinion. That sounds like a friend of mine Where you in Walsoken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 When there is a nice looking lady out riding i almost stop.....i find i get a better view that way.and even nice when they get up of the saddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDRsniper Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I've stopped shooting one particular field on one of my perms cause of the ranting of a horsey owning neighbour, last time there she went ballistic cause the shots had spooked a horse that was so hyped up on molasses soaked feed it threw her daughter. I called the farmer as she ranted on and he said put her on the phone, I only heard her side of the conversation but it went something like this........ Hello, well Gemma got thrown because of these men you have here, but......... I think they shouldn't shoot here, but...... But...... But.......... But.............. Well really! She gave me back the phone and walked away, I asked the farmer what he said to her when I saw him later that day and he just smiled. Horses on roads - no problem Horses side by side or worse still three abreast - stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I don't ride I don't trust the the blooming things but I always slow down and give horses a wide berth don't matter if its one or three abreast the safety aspect is paramount .Have had a few choice words with riders when out in the lanes with the dogs one rider asked me to stop using the whistle as it was upsetting dobbin I told her if her horse was the easy spooked then she should not be riding in a public place if it could not be kept under control and that was what my whistle was for to control the dog. Like many people nowerdays they think they have the right to dictate how others should go about there daily lives instead of live and let live.So frenchie just let her know that living in the countryside dose have its down sides like shotgun noise or smelly cows etc so instead of trying to change others habits she maybe should try and adapt to the country life a little bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 ‘Horse Sense’ In my experience if all drivers and riders displayed as much sense as the horse when they meet on the roads then I believe a more agreeable outcome could be achieved when all three come together, so to speak! Back to the original post, ‘spandit’s’ post would be spot on to my mind, however I would take a deep breath before knocking on her door! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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