malkiserow Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 I am seriously going off the whole idea of British citizenship. I have made it this far....... I'll stick as I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 I am seriously going off the whole idea of British citizenship. I have made it this far....... I'll stick as I am. Do you have to apply for it as I never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Do you have to apply for it as I never have. Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgguinness Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Reading this post with interest. I, like many don't have a say but personally I'm in the 'better together' camp, but if the Scots go on Thurs then it's a "see ya later boys" stance which would be a real shame. One question I have though is, if on Thursday the Scots decide to part company with us, and Cameron etc are saying there's no going back, but the actual departure date is 18 months on after a negotiation period of slicing up the pie...what if Cameron decides to hard ball and give away the bare minimum? Or is it not a case of that?? Edited September 15, 2014 by jgguinness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Ah well just feel the love in this thread eh? Out of interest folks, previous to this week's vote, there were a number of people from south of the border stating they wanted to know if Scotland got their Democracy - would regions in England be allowed to vote for the same? My understanding of their reasoning for this was very similar to Scotland's - tired of Westminster ways of dealing with the rest of the country - generalized agreement there I think? As I said - seriously - is this still something that is around for folks from different regions? Pushkin B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgguinness Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Ah well just feel the love in this thread eh? Out of interest folks, previous to this week's vote, there were a number of people from south of the border stating they wanted to know if Scotland got their Democracy - would regions in England be allowed to vote for the same? My understanding of their reasoning for this was very similar to Scotland's - tired of Westminster ways of dealing with the rest of the country - generalized agreement there I think? As I said - seriously - is this still something that is around for folks from different regions? Pushkin B) I'm tired of Westminster/London and the amount of investment in that area in comparison to the rest of the country, in particular 'the North' There has been an unfair slicing of the pie for many a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 True but if Scotland vote yes then the money don't have to travel as far north. It'll be worth watching if it does happen. Can't see why they would get 18 months to sort it out. A couple of weeks will do. Your on your own and we're taking our ball home. I'm in the yes camp now and I want a vote on if we want Scotland to stay. Figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I live in Scotland and love living here, I am also very proud to be part of the UK, the thought of a yes vote terrifies me and I will certainly move south, this whole idea that Scotland can go alone is ridiculous when you listen to how they will do it so much depends on the agreement of others and quite frankly why should they agree, the promises been banded around are just unrealistic! For example they intend to create 30000 jobs a year! How? This would be credible if they had been doing it already but they haven't why? Surely regardless of Thursdays outcome this should be a priority along with sorting out the poverty issues. The sad fact is people are falling for this hook line and sinker, and believe a yes will bring change........guess that is right, for the WORSE! If it is a no vote, all the yessers will now be traceable now they are on the voters roll, watch the debt collection agencies flood in, fingers crossed they have to pay their dues like the rest of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 You'd think they would discuss how the pie would be sliced before having a vote so people have something to actually vote for. What makes me mad is when the negotiations start Westminster will just bend over and the tax payer will pickup the tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Letter in the Times yesterday (Lord Howard?) basically said there should be another vote once the Scots had voted yes so they know what they have sign up to. A bit like saying they have signed a legally binding contract without reading the terms first - stupid or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Do you have to apply for it as I never have. What citizenship/passport do you hold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I blame the environment agency and hope for once they get publicly bent over and dry reamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 The Sweaties are now moaning that Saturday's Dad's Army was biased against them: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11097615/Wur-doomed-BBC-angers-Scotlands-Yes-camp-with-ill-timed-Dads-Army-episode.html "Of Laurie, he concedes that the character confirmed southern stereotypes of Scotsmen being mean and moaning a lot..." They're doomed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm afraid I can't reply to this as I would like because I'd be banned. How is it a 'small consideration' if your business goes down the pan and you can't pay your mortgage any more? Of your mortgage is in a foreign currency, the 'groat' deflates' and your payments double? Or you have trouble putting food on the table? Or your economy goes through a massive depression causing your standard of living to be dragged back 20 years. "Westminster has consistently governed Scotland as a province, undervaluing and underfunding at the polar opposite of the political scale." What do you do for a living? This sounds like the sort of (incorrect) trype an 6th form politics student would come out with. You do know that the Scots get more spent per head than the rest of the UK because of the Barnett formula? No need for the above, mate. I'm just expressing an opinion which millions of Scots evidently share. It's none of your business what I do for a living, and it has no relevance to this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Out of interest folks, previous to this week's vote, there were a number of people from south of the border stating they wanted to know if Scotland got their Democracy - would regions in England be allowed to vote for the same? My understanding of their reasoning for this was very similar to Scotland's - tired of Westminster ways of dealing with the rest of the country - generalized agreement there I think? All that will probably come out after the vote, there's certainly been talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Regional government would be divisive, a bit like Scottish Independence. I for one will be looking for a different attitude if the vote is yes, from the Britsh government. Scotland seems to have turned into a fair weather friend after all these years and helping the youngster leave home with all sorts of handouts isnt on my mind. I dont thnk a giveaway government will last long after the mess left by the two Scots Blair and Brown. The road investment in Scotland has been enormous over the 2000 -2010 period, most arranged by Gordon Brown. Its best Scotland goes I think now, as those who want a yes vote will never see the truth and who wants any more self interested politicians in their parliament ? Not me thanks. Someone may eventually realise that business goes where it chooses, barring grants and inducements - I wonder if Scotland will be able to afford that ? Oh yes - the oil will pay. I for one wish you well but would like to see the severance be total - shame we cant unhinge the top bit, as a fairer climate and being closer to Europe might help, especially with the hoped for membership. If not, the sunshine would make the Scots feel better. Since most of the world and large parts of Europe are in recession, maybe heading towards the near east would be better. I will also have to get a taste for Japanese whisky or better still, English, although Welsh is worth the extra. Shame to lose friends, both of us and a bit tragic that the "auld enemy will become the "new enemy". Sadly, after a yes vote, Scotland will become just another country and not necessarily an ally from what I have heard from the "fomenters". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 No need for the above, mate. I'm just expressing an opinion which millions of Scots evidently share. It's none of your business what I do for a living, and it has no relevance to this debate. You are not my 'mate'. 2nd form politics student? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Lets at least try to keep it civil, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Lets at least try to keep it civil, :lol: that'll be hard the closer the vote gets. Shame it's not like X Factor with the fifth judge being the rest of the UK chanting stay or off off off. Figgy Edited September 16, 2014 by figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynGT4 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 :lol: that'll be hard the closer the vote gets. Shame it's not like X Factor with the fifth judge being the rest of the UK chanting stay or off off off. Figgy Too right, and it'll get even harder once the votes have been counted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graiglearn Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) They say there are 2 things that smell like fish ! now there are 2 fish [salmond and sturgeon] that talk a load of ****[sounds like fish],and as Burns would say ,the rich will get richer and the hell with the poor ,alex's a ******[make your own mind] and nicola's a hoo# [ had to edit as mods dont like swear filter swerve ] Edited September 16, 2014 by graiglearn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 They say there are 2 things that smell like fish ! now there are 2 fish [salmond and sturgeon] that talk a load of **** and as Burns would say ,the rich will get richer and the hell with the poor ,alex's a ******** and nicola's a hoo# I take it your in the still to make your mind up camp? KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graiglearn Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) I take it your in the still to make your mind up camp? KW yep right from the miniute they wasted the money building that bloody parliment and pay msps to come away with trivial things like stopping docking working dogs tails ,now how good will the same numptys be at self independance ,but slightly leaning to the 'no', but what about the rhyme just like Burns he never minced his views ! Edited September 16, 2014 by graiglearn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Think we all know politicians are incompetent so they will make a right mess of it. Figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graiglearn Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 dont worry England ,its well known we have fought against each other through history , like every other country that gets what it thinks it wants ,first unrest, then civil war, then you come and take over ,happened before, hope it does not come to that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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