team tractor Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Ask your boss to take it as holiday pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Juicer Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Check the list of people exempt, or just go do it. You may find it satisfying and learn something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I saw them once always wanted one of those flat white caps they used to wear. Lol, Anyone for a chorus ? "Sugar baby love...... Sugar ba......" No ? Just us then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Did it once, spent 3-4 days in court listening to all sorts of nonsense from various witnesses etc. Then at the end the judge instructed us to find the accused not guilty. The women in the jury were bonkers, saying things like " he must be guilty, nobody innocent would have a hair cut like that". Glad we were instructed as i really wouldn't want to have to decide on the young lads fate. He was accused of being involved in an assault. He probably was involved to some extent but the victim deserved it and more anyway. (for starting the fight in the first place) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 To be honest once you've done it twice it gets very dull even with interesting case, I accepted the first, delayed the second (I was in Iraq) and the third asked to be excused as as I'd done it twice in 2 different areas and was setting up my business, 2 hours drive from my new house to the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I would say that anyone losing money for doing it should be dismissed as your annoyance at losing x days money could cause bias against the defendant that has caused you to be there! i agree id give him a guilty so i could go home none of this jurys out for 10 days ******** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I thinks the system is set up badly in this day and age. For someone to lose their wage, pension, childcare vouchers etc (maybe loss of NI contribution for state pension) for the case duration is plain wrong. The Jurors deserve better and should not profit from it but also should not lose out. im amazed they can get a jury these days 1/2 the country's in court for 1 thing or another the other half aint interested and find away to bail after all who's going to sit on a bench for weeks losing money, nobody sane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 you could always say quite loudly so its over heard by the defence lawyer "dont like the look of that crim he's going to have to work real hard to get a not guilty from me" that should do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 you could always say quite loudly so its over heard by the defence lawyer "dont like the look of that crim he's going to have to work real hard to get a not guilty from me" that should do it isn't it "he's a 'rong-un if ever I saw one" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Funny, isn't it. The law trusts you to be responsible, has entrusted you with firearms. And yet here you are, trying to lie and cheat your way out of jury service - which should be regarded as the epitome of being an honest and upstanding citizen An interesting look at the real level of honesty ? Oh, by the way. If you claimed to have holiday booked for the dates, then the court can, in reply, ask you for proof that the holiday has been booked, and that it was booked before you got asked to do jury service. Lying on your jury form is, I'm pretty certain, contempt of court. Im certain this point of view would be changed if the financial consequences element were removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 isn't it "he's a 'rong-un if ever I saw one" thats the way instant dismissal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fella Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Funny, isn't it. The law trusts you to be responsible, has entrusted you with firearms. And yet here you are, trying to lie and cheat your way out of jury service - which should be regarded as the epitome of being an honest and upstanding citizen An interesting look at the real level of honesty ? Oh, by the way. If you claimed to have holiday booked for the dates, then the court can, in reply, ask you for proof that the holiday has been booked, and that it was booked before you got asked to do jury service. Lying on your jury form is, I'm pretty certain, contempt of court. I'm glad this post finally arrived in the thread. I was beginning to despair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I wouldn't mind giving it a go, but the ability to pay my mortgage, bills and tax are more pressing duties to me. Sorry for being selfish like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Surely the question is - "Why is your employer being so un-public-spirited". I've deferred it once - Employer couldn't spare me at the time - and served twice, one when I was employed, second time when I was self-employed. Fortunately my self-employment could be fitted around the court times, and indeed I was able to talk business to my fellow jurors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I would love to do jury duty, it is part of the common law and you are doing your country a great service. Just remember jury nullification exists, when you are on jury duty you are effectively the highest law in the land. I wouldn't dream of getting out of it, more like.....how do I get in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriBsa Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 If all the Jury have the attitude of "I'm only here because I couldn't get out of it", God help the accused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Write back and tell them you are fully aware of jury nullification and prepared to advise the rest of the jury and implement it if you deem nessecary, they won't want you there :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy518 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I got called once in 1991. My dad wrote back on my behalf saying thanks but as I was out in the Gulf with the RAF. I was excused. Since then up until recently was not eligible due to being a copper. Rules have changed now though, cops can be called. However, due to the probability of my knowing of either the defendant, witnesses other officers or the case itself, it is very unlikely I will be sat on a jury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I would love to do jury duty, it is part of the common law and you are doing your country a great service. Just remember jury nullification exists, when you are on jury duty you are effectively the highest law in the land. I wouldn't dream of getting out of it, more like.....how do I get in it? I have done it the once thoroughly enjoyed it, but not so much the 1st case I was selected for when the judge ordered a woman (who was as guilty as sin) to be found not guilty thanks to plod not being shall we say "diligent" did nothing for my confidence in Cleveland police!! I can tell you. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm glad this post finally arrived in the thread. I was beginning to despair! Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Ask your employer to write you a letter saying they cannot spare you as only you can do the role you do ? That has worked in the past at my old firm. Personally i've never been asked, but would love to do it to see the judicial system up close and personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) because he's running a business and paying jurys isn't his problem and he may have to pay someone to pick up the slack while the employees away could be the answer Surely the question is - "Why is your employer being so un-public-spirited". Edited December 4, 2014 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I got called once in 1991. My dad wrote back on my behalf saying thanks but as I was out in the Gulf with the RAF. I was excused. Since then up until recently was not eligible due to being a copper. Rules have changed now though, cops can be called. However, due to the probability of my knowing of either the defendant, witnesses other officers or the case itself, it is very unlikely I will be sat on a jury Had a cop on one of the juries I was on - but they let her off because the defence objected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 because he's running a business and paying jurys isn't his problem and he may have to pay someone to pick up the slack while the employees away could be the answer I thought jury duty was something that was part of your rights and responsibilities in common law if that employer disregards the very tennet on which British law is supposed to be based on I wonder what other things he likes to disregard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Been there mate, lost a fortune over the two weeks, there half a day is about 2.00pm send home, I only work till 4pm,so buy the time I got home, changed , waste of time trying to get to work. What was annoying was that for the first 4 days I was just sat there waiting to be picked for a trail. Cheers for finding me not guilty tho mate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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