Alpha Mule Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I have a CZ 452 HMR Silhouette with a 22" barrel that is a tack-driver when I get it right. However: I wanted a short barrel from the outset and the dealer messed up - put the wrong serial number on my FAC, but as I was so keen, I went with it My opinion hasn't changed though and I still want a shorty. If I shorten it to say 17" what are the chances that my tack-driver will become a blunderbuss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 lotsa people gone 16" ,but itsa marmite job youl love it or hate it .theres been a fair few done it b4 now .just remember once cut then recrowned thats it .search on here see what you think of others experiences .if its a tack driver why bother .do a cheeky and get a variation for a permanent night shooting shorty atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 There is lots on here regarding this, including pictures, so it may be worthwhile doing a search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Mine was made as a 16inch and I really like it, very accurate too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 My CZ 452 .22LR & CZ 455 .17hmr are both 16" barrel - and are very accurate and handy rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Had my CZ cut to 14 so I could get it stood up in the cab, grouped at tread,this is the wife at 54 metres. Edited November 22, 2015 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) very strange that this thread popped up today as I was looking at my 452 .22lr today and thinking the barrel looks massive in this photo started me wondering what the pros and cons would be in getting it chopped. I guess as all my shooting is done on foot and not from a vehicle that the benefits would be purely cosmetic Edited November 22, 2015 by belly47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Even on foot mate it's better as the barrel tends not to get snagged on anything.If I ever bought another ( can't now as handed licenced in this week) it would go straight to the smithy. Edited November 22, 2015 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanieboy Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Got my 452 cut down to 14" - gun was deadly accurate before and after. Just make sure and get it done properly and there should be no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I have a CZ 452 HMR Silhouette with a 22" barrel that is a tack-driver when I get it right. However: I wanted a short barrel from the outset and the dealer messed up - put the wrong serial number on my FAC, but as I was so keen, I went with it My opinion hasn't changed though and I still want a shorty. If I shorten it to say 17" what are the chances that my tack-driver will become a blunderbuss? So what did you decide to do...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Iv a CZ452 Varmint with 20inch barrel - got it before they started selling the 16inch version... What i dont get is they charge more for the shorter barrel when new! I stick an ASE Utra mod. on the end of mine... so the benefits of a short barrel wouldnt be noticed too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Iv a CZ452 Varmint with 20inch barrel - got it before they started selling the 16inch version... What i dont get is they charge more for the shorter barrel when new. The barrel blanks are all made as 20" and factory cut so they charge you for the cut and the waste metal. I have my LR in 16 but my HMR in 20 but then the LR sees more use for 4x4 lamping so the shorter barrel is less likely to get smacked on the door but I like to take the mod off the HMR when storing and if it was 16" it would fall over in the cabinet certainly wouldn't say the LR lacks anything in accuracy though This is 52yards off a bipod Edited November 28, 2015 by Colster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Had my Sako quad shortened for use in the LR and it's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 A shoot mate bought a lovely 452 with the 22" and it would sub inch at 50yrds after doing some searching on the webnet he went for the 14" cut and crown and its just as good as before .....the info i found said there can be a change in velocity as the rate of powder burn can be bought into this ..the fella had a 22" barrelled 22 and set about fireing the rifle over a crono and then removing an inch at a time once the barrel became shorter than 14" there was a drop off in velocity showing the powder was not burnt up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Cheers chaps.My big worry was that accuracy would suffer. However: going by what you all seem to agree on is that it shouldn't be affected. So once Crimbo is over and done with and the spawn's birthday is accounted for, I'll take it to Sportsman's in Newport.I took my T3 there to have the thread re-cut from metric to UNC and they did a smashing job (rather the bloke they use did). I reckon 15" is going to be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) As follows .17hmr 16 inch .22 lr 14 inch Anly less and the powder won't be fully burnt Try and buy already factory cut as some barral are choked also some rifles should never be chopped A sako finnfire will sell all day,for the price you paid for it..chop the barral and you will be lucky to give it away as scrap Also some rifles never survive and will never shoot acurate again...don't give it to Dave a mate down the pub. ..with his hacksaw to chop and ball bearing to crown Edited November 29, 2015 by psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 I wanted a short barrel from the outset and the dealer messed up - put the wrong serial number on my FAC, but as I was so keen, I went with it If he had the right gun in stock, why didn't you get him to ammend the paperwork and put the correct number down? That's like going to buy a car and coming home with a motorbike and sidecar.The wife and kids would just love that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Going by VarmintAl's site, 15" should still kick out rounds quickly enough to do the job. Sportsman's far all their faults (real or implied) did a fantastic job previously. Dave down the pub doesn't get a look-in. My rifle is a CZ, not a Sako. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 If he had the right gun in stock, why didn't you get him to ammend the paperwork and put the correct number down? That's like going to buy a car and coming home with a motorbike and sidecar.The wife and kids would just love that. Once the details are added to your licence, they have to be removed by plod, BEFORE a new one can be added. I was furious that he had messed up, as I could have bought a long one just round the corner, and had driven over 150 miles round trip, for a short one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Remember you need it to be proofed as well( especially if you sell it on).Anyone in the North East area,Dave @ bowtech is heighly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 It very rare for accuracy to suffer if done by some who know what they are doing as it's set up off the bore and re crowned more accurately and better than a factory does. It very rare for accuracy to suffer if done by some who know what they are doing as it's set up off the bore and re crowned more accurately and better than a factory does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo17 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 I always get my rifles crowned from new ( after running in ) profesionally on a lathe by a gunsmith... and yes it can make a good rifle better.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 my .22lr is 12.5" just as accurate thread just clears the stock, mod is the only protrusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted November 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 my .22lr is 12.5" just as accurate thread just clears the stock, mod is the only protrusion Ooof, bet that looks 'proper Gansta!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Out of interest - what's the cost of a chop, crown & re-thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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