propercartridges Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 well chaps I have been asked to do 10 bore for a start the test barrel to bolt on to my housing is about 1000 pounds and odds and end of other gear is going to be another 6 to 700 is it worth it lets see your feed back cases will be cheddite 20 mill head in red or black thanks george Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Why not have small runs checked the proof house rather than spend a fortune on test equipment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 If you load steel at a good price with good performance chances are it is an area in which you would quickly corner the market I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Definitely worth it, especially if you start loading non-toxic. There are very few options out there and there and plenty of folk that use a 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifly Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 you will do very well, seeing that gamebore cannot be bothered to load them and imports are drying up £38.00 for remington sportsman steel if you can get them round here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why not have small runs checked the proof house rather than spend a fortune on test equipment? had argument with proof house on prices on Monday they now want for 12 gauge 65 pounds plus vat for testing and you have to pay to get them there wasting good money when I have the same gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 had argument with proof house on prices on Monday they now want for 12 gauge 65 pounds plus vat for testing and you have to pay to get them there wasting good money when I have the same gear I would see it as an investment,because if can confirm you have proof tested at a proof house it is much more 'comforting' to end users and would surely help you sell?Maybe talk to a couple of wildfowler clubs and see what they want as that is the 10 g market would have thought.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox022 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Hi I am up in Northumberland no 10g shells available up hear and none in the pipline same story from all dealers waiting for remington had to send 20 emails to shops around the country to get a few boxes rfd gamebore confirmed they have discontinued loading 10g shells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 If you load steel at a good price with good performance chances are it is an area in which you would quickly corner the market I would say. i'm with fenboy on this ,you would need to get a speed of at least 1550 -1600 fps using large steel shot (10 g is a goose gun after all and I know a lot use them for ducks ). .there's alot of 10 s out there that don't get used because guys carn't get the cartridges they want without paying daft money or they have to load their own ! and the reloading route is also proplematic with powders for steel drying up and then having to work out a new load using substitute powders . also in this day and age young guys are pushed for time what with work and looking after their famlies they don't have time for reloading or traveling about trying to source cartrides ! so if you could come up with a good cartridge in none toxic at a fair price then i'm sure guys would dust down their Mighty Tens and get them out on the marsh again . DD . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Someone in this country should start manufacturing the equivalent of the 10-12 GaugeMate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 had argument with proof house on prices on Monday they now want for 12 gauge 65 pounds plus vat for testing and you have to pay to get them there wasting good money when I have the same gear That's for 20 shells. Compared to spending a couple of grand on a test barrel etc it aint that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 i'm with fenboy on this ,you would need to get a speed of at least 1550 -1600 fps using large steel shot (10 g is a goose gun after all and I know a lot use them for ducks ). .there's alot of 10 s out there that don't get used because guys carn't get the cartridges they want without paying daft money or they have to load their own ! and the reloading route is also proplematic with powders for steel drying up and then having to work out a new load using substitute powders . also in this day and age young guys are pushed for time what with work and looking after their famlies they don't have time for reloading or traveling about trying to source cartrides ! so if you could come up with a good cartridge in none toxic at a fair price then i'm sure guys would dust down their Mighty Tens and get them out on the marsh again . DD . You do not need to be that fast most of the shop bought ten bore shells are around 1350 if your lucky ,if you get say 45 gram load of 2s and same in 1s and bbb doing 1400 fps they will sell believe me and work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 42 gram ( minimum ) of BB or BBB, no stupid fast cartridges, reasonable price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 well I have a choice I was going to buy test barrels for 2 one for 410 and one for 16 bore just so I can cover most shops as I am getting them saying my carts r good but they wont dump a suppler if I cant cover all standard gauges they get from other makers so what do I drop to get 10 gauge 410 or 16 gauge votes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Someone in this country should start manufacturing the equivalent of the 10-12 GaugeMate. Yes I agree 16 for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 You wont have much of a market for 16gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 You wont have much of a market for 16gauge. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox022 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 In 35yrs shooting only ever seen one 16 bore and that was 30yrs ago go for the 10g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Drop 16, between junior guns, modern ou and hushpower, 410 cartridges do have a market that is under supplied, and currently is supplied with the wrong product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Another vote here to drop the 16 option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I only know two people who own 16s. I know loads that own 10s and .410s. A nice 3" 16-19gm of 7.5 in th.410 would be my ideal pigeon load. A nice 42 - 49gm load of BB steel in the 1400 - 1500 fps bracket would suit me . Make those at sensible prices, George, and you will have another long term customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 4.10 and 10 bore for me on the vote Have you ventured gown the non toxic route before George Only ask as j haven't seen any non toxic in 12 on your list All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 more people use 10bore and 410 caliber than 16 bore . so the 16 bore is a no for me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 more people use 10bore and 410 caliber than 16 bore . so the 16 bore is a no for me . Not sure about that , I bet if you took the country as a whole there are more 16s than 10s , I have a 16 but don't worry George I only use a box of cartridges a year in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 go for the ten George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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