Big Al Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I always thought that the difference was one was an ejector and the other wasn't. A quick flick through gun sales websites tells me I was wrong as both come as non-ejectors. Can anyone enlighten me as to what the difference is between them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 3s non ejector MOST 4s are.......is what I think?never seen a 3 ejector......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I have an AYA brochure in front of me and it describes a No3 as a boxlock non ejector and the No4 as a boxlock ejector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) 3s non ejector MOST 4s are.......is what I think?never seen a 3 ejector......... I have an AYA brochure in front of me and it describes a No3 as a boxlock non ejector and the No4 as a boxlock ejector. Thanks guys. I haven't seen a No3 as an ejector either. I've just had a thought - it is possible that the listers on the websites have got it wrong. Back to my original thinking then. No3 boxlock non-ejector. No4 boxlock ejector. As per the sales catalogue. Thanks again for the replies. Happy Christmas. Edited December 24, 2015 by Big Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) A sturdy action the #3 is. Edited December 24, 2015 by Underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Looks the biz UD. I was very recently just beaten to a very nice 3" Magnum Yeoman on here. Shame; sxs not really my thing but it looked so workman like and tactile. May keep my eye open for another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I think that it`ll be down to people listing/describing what they have for sale incorrectly tbh.There is a constant stream of wrongly identified AYA guns on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I think that it`ll be down to people listing/describing what they have for sale incorrectly tbh.There is a constant stream of wrongly identified AYA guns on the web. You're right there, most people get the no3 mixed up with a yeoman or a no4 mixed up with a yeoman ejector, the yeomans have pins on the action frame where the 3&4 are put together with screws and lock screws I have two number 4's a std and a best quality , they are great guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) You're right there, most people get the no3 mixed up with a yeoman or a no4 mixed up with a yeoman ejector, the yeomans have pins on the action frame where the 3&4 are put together with screws and lock screws Thanks for that. I have been offered an AYA as a a knock about gun. Non ejector and case coloured. I was assuming after the earlier help above that it is a No3 or yeoman. It sounds like a No3 then as it is screwed together. Lovely gun UD. I hope to have a match of it soon. Edited December 24, 2015 by Big Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I should never sold it, I could shoot it with my eyes shut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 There was also briefly a Yeoman ejector that gets confused .Yeoman's had body wires rather than screws in the sides of the action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14Supersport04 Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Doesnt a no.4 have a concave rib and a no.3 has a flat rib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldweld Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 i have a 32 year old yeoman ejector, its been everywhere shot most things and still going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Doesnt a no.4 have a concave rib and a no.3 has a flat rib No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinybum Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 I should never sold it, I could shoot it with my eyes shut! did you ever hit anything !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 did you ever hit anything !! Yeah, that was the thing, if I flicked it in front just enough it worked a treat. Fitted me spot on. I never learn. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal. Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 I have an AYA, sold to me as a No. 3, but beside having screws and lock screws it also has pins in the action. It's a non-ejector. It is not marked 'Yeoman.' I have a Yeoman that is stamped 'Yeoman.' Did AYA make a No. 3 woth pins and screws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 To further confuse things, AYA made models 400 and 400E which were non ejector and ejector respectively? I believe that they were made for the Spanish market prior to the massive UK imports commencing in the 60s and were the pre-cursor to the Nos.3 & 4. These can be identified by having shoulders to the action and are often advertised as either a No.3 or 4 depending whether ejector or non ejector. I picked up a model 400 in my favourite gauge 16, a few years ago and it's a great little gun. Not sure, but does the No.3 have disc set strikers, as my model 400 has ? OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Hello, I have had a yeoman , number 3 and number 4 , I always went on rib types, yeoman medium high flat file cut, number 3 had pins and concave rib non ejector, number 4 concave rib ,screws and ejector, a chap I know has a yeoman ejector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 Yeoman came in both non ejector and ejector versions and as far as I know were virtually always marked YEOMAN. I think all had 'drive in pins' rather than 'screws' (also sometimes confusingly called 'pins'). My Yeoman (no longer with me, but 1970s vintage) had disc set strikers I think. Even more confusingly there was an over/under model called a Yeoman ........ I have a feeling that over the years No 3 and No 4 may have been simplified a bit to save costs and possibly 'pins' replaced 'screws' in some, but I'm guessing. If you have an AyA, the factory are very helpful with records (tell them the serial number). A very helpful lady called Carmen replied by return, but I hear she has now retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 I miss my 12b number 3 , too short in the stock but so natural to shoot, the only thing i have now that is close is a 20b SP1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 8 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: Yeoman came in both non ejector and ejector versions and as far as I know were virtually always marked YEOMAN. I think all had 'drive in pins' rather than 'screws' (also sometimes confusingly called 'pins'). My Yeoman (no longer with me, but 1970s vintage) had disc set strikers I think. Even more confusingly there was an over/under model called a Yeoman ........ I have a feeling that over the years No 3 and No 4 may have been simplified a bit to save costs and possibly 'pins' replaced 'screws' in some, but I'm guessing. If you have an AyA, the factory are very helpful with records (tell them the serial number). A very helpful lady called Carmen replied by return, but I hear she has now retired. I`ve had No3 and 4 with pins rather than screws,both had a rounded off ramp type safety piece and concave ribs,both were older guns with serial nos in the teens,they also handled a little better than the later ones!Hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, matone said: I`ve had No3 and 4 with pins rather than screws There are so many variations ......... then on top of that - there re some 'built to order' ones that come on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: There are so many variations ......... then on top of that - there re some 'built to order' ones that come on the market. There are indeed ,they`ve been making them for a long time and like most things ,have evolved through time.There`s an Elderkin Game Special in the classifieds that was an interesting variation on the #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 9, 2020 Report Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, matone said: There`s an Elderkin Game Special in the classifieds that was an interesting variation on the #4. Sportarm also do an "English Game" which is a sidelock presumably based on the No 2 (or No 1). No 1 has different barrel steel, which makes the barrels a bit lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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