clayboster Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 hi guys, went out for first time with new gun today, yup in the lovely rain, ive had the gun about 6 mnths now but today was first time out in wet weather, shot a round of 60 clays in the rain, gun gets rather wet in proccess, gets back home (20 minit ride), takes gun out of bag for drying/cleaning....wow...whats happened to my stock?? looks like its a varnished stock and someones threw paintstripper on it, grain was swollen n not looking too good, . anyhow after drying and leaving to air out for a few hours its gone down a bit but some still remains and is a bit unsightly, ive shot my beretta in the rain before without this problem (my son used it today..no problems). but my nice new browning that is oil finished (beretta too) has turned sour on me after one single use in wet weather. anyone know why this could have happened, ?? its a £3k gun so should have expected better than this. any cures? or back to dealers (long ride) heres a few pics taken later tonite. cheers for advice. dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 SORRY::: Take it Back. 3k pheeewww. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1983 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Yeah as above I would be taking it back as wouldn't expect rain to do that damage!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Ditto long journey or not thats got to go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Yep; that has to go back. Not fit for purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Out of interest, which model is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 At 3k that's disgraceful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 That is the current Browning wood finish, grain not properly sealed. Have you done any work to the woodwork since you bought it? You are meant to maintain the finish by applying a small amount of oil and gently rubbing it in with the palm of your hand. Be prepared for the shop to ask you these sort of questions! I use CCL Products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Swap it for a Baikal 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Keeper Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 You can take it to another RFD as it will be sent to browning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 The finish on that stock looks very thin you should not be able to see into those little grain holes. I think there is a few coats missing of that, you should not have to buy a gun were you have to finish the wood work yourself. I do hope you get it sorted and soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboster Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Out of interest, which model is it. its the new b725 pro-trap. the adustable stock, rib one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboster Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 That is the current Browning wood finish, grain not properly sealed. Have you done any work to the woodwork since you bought it? You are meant to maintain the finish by applying a small amount of oil and gently rubbing it in with the palm of your hand. Be prepared for the shop to ask you these sort of questions! I use CCL Products. every time ive used it its had a light smearing of linseed/alkanet root oil and rubbed in till dry, its been no problem till it got used in the rain today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Keeper Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 browning has a 5 or 3 year guarantee on wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 If the gun is 6 months old and you have regularly applied stock oil I cannot see how water will have penetrated the wood. What is the make of the oil you used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Straight back.Take plenty of photos before you send it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Most stock wood today is kiln dried which requiries the grain to be filled thus not allowing moisture too penitrate the wood before a oil finish , this does not come overnight it takes months for a good oil finish.' for what I see from the image the only way to rescue this stock is strip of finish and start a fresh.,Most gun stocks today are just **** wood the gun makers of yesterday would only used todays wood for firewood, enclosed are images of gunstocks of yesterday Feltwad Edited January 4, 2016 by Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay404 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 My b725 did a similar thing . Got damp and dried and I didn't notice it . The Finish went all dull and just depressing looking. Ended up refinishing my self took ages but looks so much better . I'd defiantly send that back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfish Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 appalling on a 1k gun let alone a 3k gun, got to go back, let us know how you were treated ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) The text book answer back to the shop warranty repair by BWM. It's a common fault on modern guns for various reason all cost cutting short cuts IMHO, strip and refinish with proper oils and it won't happens again and the stock will most likely look a lot better. Edited January 4, 2016 by welshwarrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Take it back, get a refund and buy a Beretta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Most stock wood today is kiln dried which requiries the grain to be filled thus not allowing moisture too penitrate the wood before a oil finish , this does not come overnight it takes months for a good oil finish.' for what I see from the image the only way to rescue this stock is strip of finish and start a fresh.,Most gun stocks today are just **** wood the gun makers of yesterday would only used todays wood for firewood, enclosed are images of gunstocks of yesterday Feltwad &&0 Nice pictures of them in the sunshine. Perhaps you could run a test, put some rain water on one of the stocks, leave it for an hour or two and then show us the result. Also I do not think your comparison stacks up. You are showing the stocks of what would have been custom guns in their day having been manufactured from higher grade woods and had much more time spent on their finish. They are not the general user (farmer) models which were built in their hundreds. Edited January 5, 2016 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 B25 The days of the muzzle loader ,pinfire , and early breech loader the type of wood in the images was common in all types of guns although some did not have the same figure the planks in those days stood for a great number of years to dry and came from the root of mostly walnut Today most wood is kiln dried and comes from all parts of the tree most with opened grain and not properley finished .The gun in your image if used better oiled would look a lot better although just average wood Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Nice pictures of them in the sunshine. Perhaps you could run a test, put some rain water on one of the stocks, leave it for an hour or two and then show us the result. Also I do not think your comparison stacks up. You are showing the stocks of what would have been custom guns in their day having been manufactured from higher grade woods and had much more time spent on their finish. They are not the general user (farmer) models which were built in their hundreds. DSCN0684.JPG I have used and seen used many an old English gun used all day in the rain with correctly seasoned stocks and traditional oil finishes and none of them ever showed any issues like what one often sees today!Over priced junk I am afraid or a rip off, take your pick. Go look at the timber on a Browning from the fifties, then you will see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) I have used and seen used many an old English gun used all day in the rain with correctly seasoned stocks and traditional oil finishes and none of them ever showed any issues like what one often sees today! Over priced junk I am afraid or a rip off, take your pick. Go look at the timber on a Browning from the fifties, then you will see! The gun I showed was termed a farmers gun and engraved such on the barrels. It was a cheap gun manufactured for the mass market. The stock would not have come up anywhere near your stocks. It was handed in a few years back for disposal. I have Brownings (5) 4 of which are from the 70/80's. Two are nitro coated and two are oil. The nitro have been out in all weathers and do not stain. They started their life satin to which I have polished them up to gloss. I have not used the oiled ones in pouring rain so have no evidence of what would happen to them. Today I pick my shooting days, bright, clear, cloudy and no rain are much better for concentration. I must add the 'oil' finished stock on my Maxus is not one that I would risk in the rain. It will require much 'oiling' by the end user beforehand. Edited January 5, 2016 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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