Hamster Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Just seen this on FB and if the results are anywhere near indicative of the performance then I personally find them extremely worrying and prepared to bet they'll be banned and require some sort of FAC approval to buy very soon : Not only are they demonstrably useless at 100 yards, they may well be destructive and dangerous and at 125 yards when they have opened can't even be relied on to hit the pattern reliably (told you that anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Not good. They're essentially a slug filled with shot, no better than a cut shell like the Americans do. I can't see a way for the two shot cups to separate, in the video at 120 meters I thought the war had hit the ground in front of the board spilling the shot onto the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Interesting, but just a bit scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Not good. They're essentially a slug filled with shot, no better than a cut shell like the Americans do. I can't see a way for the two shot cups to separate, in the video at 120 meters I thought the war had hit the ground in front of the board spilling the shot onto the board. Yup, I'd agree. That's struck the ground and the cup has disintegrated. Got to agree with Hamster, those should be on S1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 What was the drop from point of aim at 100yrds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 It would be interesting to find out how much energy each pellet has at 125yrds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Do these explain digweeds 100 yard clay smashing antics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Be good for a bit of impromptu deer poaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Be good for a bit of impromptu deer poaching Quite. Bit scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingit Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Done a bit of research on these myself when they popped up on the other thread.Totally agree with you Hamster,what a pile of ****. I'd never heard of them until recently here ( speaks volumes ) I find it difficult to understand how anyone would consider using these shells on feather/pheasant.Lets be honest,if they were any good I'm sure I would have heard about them before and surely some of the countries high bird specialists would have been using them ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 nice fox shell though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigeon jim Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Don't think these will be around long! Better off with George's long distance 36g #4. Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 These sort of cartridges only encourage those that already think they are long range specialists on the marsh think what they might try to achieve know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) so how do we know there just not a duff box he has , after all there not performing as there discribed on the cheddite website , there not a two bit company , they make some of the best shells around , think a lot of people may be just a little to quick to condem , These sort of cartridges only encourage those that already think they are long range specialists on the marsh think what they might try to achieve know. why would they be using them on the marsh Edited January 22, 2016 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Sorry guys I don't see an issue at all! Not illegal and certainly not a new idea. Eley were selling this type of load about 100yds ago! Might try my own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Sorry guys I don't see an issue at all! Not illegal and certainly not a new idea. Eley were selling this type of load about 100yds ago! Might try my own! Even though they appear to behave like a slug out to 100 meters? That can't be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Because we are still trying to educate the few ***** out there that are stil useing lead. ( poachers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 nice fox shell though ! Ha thats what I was thinking , should turn them inside out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Even though they appear to behave like a slug out to 100 meters? That can't be right. They are not a slug as described in law though. They meet the current demands for a loaded cartridge. Because we are still trying to educate the few ***** out there that are stil useing lead. ( poachers) When they come out with a steel or bismuth version, will you be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Whether you will have to have them on your FAC to buy them or not, the cat's out of the bag now. People will load their own. Edited January 22, 2016 by rjimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Whether you will have to have them on your FAC to buy them or not, the cat's out of the bag now. People will load their own. Cats out the bag this has been going on for years bud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Cats out the bag this has been going on for years bud! took the words out of my mouth , we was doing this yrs ago Ha thats what I was thinking , should turn them inside out . I'm gonna get me a slab before the get banned under section 104 of the PW police guidelines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Whether you will have to have them on your FAC to buy them or not, the cat's out of the bag now. People will load their own. Don't need to load your own just cut your cases like shown in some videos and you can use any cart you already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Watch this space, three loaded, nobels 80+card+fibre wad+shot+split shot cup+roll crimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Cats out the bag this has been going on for years bud! This is a bit different, and more affective than pouring molten wax in amongst the shot, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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