mattyg1086 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I keep my guns in the loft and they are getting small rust patches and ive trued that vp90 stuff or whatever its called but its not working ive coated them in oil to try and stop any more rust and am thinking about getting a small tube heater to take the chill out of the air and fitting it next to the cabinet. Will this help? Also how much would the rust cost to get fixed and is there anywhere good in bedfordshire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) Fix the Rust? Cost?? Use Parker Hale stuff called "Youngs .303" OR Ed's Red OR Kroil ...not necessarily in their order of efficiency, more like the ease at which they can be sourced! spread a few drops of one of the above, then allow to soak in. Give it a few seconds then use extra fine steel or copper wool. Rub until rust is gone. Repeat as necessary.... Did a couple of airguns last week that were in a right state. One has changed back to almost new condition with less than 30 minutes work... Prevention? Use a different surface moisture barrier - silicone spray perhaps? Or wax paste. THEN - store the guns in a special silicone impregnated full length knitted sock. Edited March 13, 2016 by saddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 simoniz original wax, or if you want a spray next best thing is ignition sealer car plan holts its vertualy the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 put disposable dehumidifier pots in your safes ,youl be surprised ,change mine every 2/3 months water filled every time.The loft heats n cools every day/ .night so condensation is always going to be an issue.pay 3 quid for 5 ,well worth it if you dont have a power supply for a heater atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coatesy75 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 so take them out of the loft . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyg1086 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Taking them out of the loft is not an option im afraid its a condition of the my wife who is a paramedic and is scared one of the kids will get hold of them and hurt or kill themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Then let your wife pay for the damage - if my other half was being unreasonable then a few choice words would sort the issue. Other option would be to pop down to your nearest Homebase and buy some Polystyrene tiles and some Decorators Caulking - cut the Tiles to fit and line your cabinet with them. Make sure that your guns are not really cold when you put them away and use something like Napier Gun Cleaner on the metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Simoniz etc and other waxes give some protection but the proper stuff for the job is "Renaissance Wax". It was specifically designed to protect items in long term storage and is used by the NRA in the US and the British Museum. Super stuff and works great if when you take your guns out in t he rain! http://www.picreator.co.uk/articles/3_renaissance_wax.htm Edited March 14, 2016 by Wingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyg1086 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Thanks everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Perhaps you have 'sweaty' hands. Wipe every metal surface with oily cloth after every handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 any electrical sockets nearby? I may be able to help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Napier VP90 sachets placed in the gun cabinet - I use them in my four cabinets and have never had problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Matty are all the knives and medicines kept in a locked cabinet in the loft as they can do harm too. Being a paramedic you think she would be a bit more understanding. Cabinet heater is the only way to be sure of keeping your guns in good nick. Edited March 14, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyg1086 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Matty are all the knives and medicines kept in a locked cabinet in the loft as they can do harm too. Being a paramedic you think she would be a bit more understanding. Cabinet heater is the only way to be sure of keeping your guns in good nick. I know mate tell me about it shes coming round though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Is moving the cabinet down and putting the Kids in the loft an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Try a reptile heat pad but put it under a folded towel should keep moisture at bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy King Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 you could also try some silica gel sachets you get wit some products. I ave 5-6 of these in my cabinet and in thee amo compartment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wilksy Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Be careful not over dry your wood out, cause cracks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I know mate tell me about it shes coming round though How hard did you have to tell her that she lost consciousness? Paramedic???!! My experience of the medical professions = biggest self-medicators of alcohol on the planet. And if she is SO concerned that the kids will get access to the guns, make them give you back the spare keys you had cut for them! WIMMIN...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Taking them out of the loft is not an option im afraid its a condition of the my wife who is a paramedic and is scared one of the kids will get hold of them and hurt or kill themselves Kids can get into a steel box with mortice locks if it's not up a small ladder..... but if it isn't up a small ladder they are bound to get in.....(not sure how her profession is relevant tho) Other option convert the loft into a man cave with proper heating and insulation. Edited March 14, 2016 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Small 12volt buld fitted in cabinet will take the damp out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Rs do a range of self regulating cabinet heaters starting at about 15 watts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 or get yourself one of these, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Other option would be to pop down to your nearest Homebase and buy some Polystyrene tiles and some Decorators Caulking - cut the Tiles to fit and line your cabinet with them. Insulation should always be on the 'outside' to avoid condensation on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 I also use Napier and packs of absorbant granules but still re oil and re clean every few months. I think the americans do a 40w heater for the job but this will be 110 volt. I think a 40w light bulb in there would do the same job, perhaps fixed through one side panels of the cabinate, A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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