EU EXIT Poll

[jonno 357]

In innit

[Gunman]

I was taken to task over this by a much younger person ,who said it was older people that wanted to leave who would not be around to see the long term results of our exit and not have to be responsible for the consequences .I pointed out that as a younger person myself I had voted for the EEC based on the lies I was told at the time.I further pointed out that many of us regret that decision and want to put it right so as future generations , his , would not have to put up with our mistakes

[12gauge82]

I've spoken to lots of friends of my niece's and nephews (18 & 19yos) and they're voting to stay in, when I asked they're reasoning they had none other than there friends were and a if it's not broken why fix it thought process. Unfortunately I think it's going to be the younger I'm in uni and know everything lot along with the big corporations brain washing employees who are going to be responsible for us staying

[oowee]

I've spoken to lots of friends of my niece's and nephews (18 & 19yos) and they're voting to stay in, when I asked they're reasoning they had none other than there friends were and a if it's not broken why fix it thought process. Unfortunately I think it's going to be the younger I'm in uni and know everything lot along with the big corporations brain washing employees who are going to be responsible for us staying

A bit like a democracy then

Do we know what the ex pat vote is forecast to be? I guess they mostly want to be in or else many would have to come back.

[Vince Green]

I've spoken to lots of friends of my niece's and nephews (18 & 19yos) and they're voting to stay in, when I asked they're reasoning they had none other than there friends were and a if it's not broken why fix it thought process. Unfortunately I think it's going to be the younger I'm in uni and know everything lot along with the big corporations brain washing employees who are going to be responsible for us staying

Yet in the Scottish referendum the youngsters were voting for independence in their droves allegedly

[Vince Green]

A bit like a democracy then

Do we know what the ex pat vote is forecast to be? I guess they mostly want to be in or else many would have to come back.

Why would they have to come back? Nothing would actually change from their point of view. That has been what the scare mongers have been putting about but I don't see why

[12gauge82]

A bit like a democracy then

Do we know what the ex pat vote is forecast to be? I guess they mostly want to be in or else many would have to come back.

True although what annoys me is when sheepeole vote without any research or thought behind their decisions and swallow whatever the government tell them.

[oowee]

Why would they have to come back? Nothing would actually change from their point of view. That has been what the scare mongers have been putting about but I don't see why

If you live abroad in the EU or Commonwealth state or government pension is index linked as part of the European Economic Area (EEA). If we pull out and want to tackle migrants then it follows that we would close down the EEA social security reciprocal finance arrangements.

[poontang]

I've spoken to lots of friends of my niece's and nephews (18 & 19yos) and they're voting to stay in, when I asked they're reasoning they had none other than there friends were and a if it's not broken why fix it thought process. Unfortunately I think it's going to be the younger I'm in uni and know everything lot along with the big corporations brain washing employees who are going to be responsible for us staying

 

If it's not broken?

 

Jeeez, it couldn't be more broken.

[mossberg-operator]

I'm IN.

[johnphilip]

Yet in the Scottish referendum the youngsters were voting for independence in their droves allegedly

Not so it backfired on the SNP and Salmond for trying it in the first place, he though he was onto a winner.

[Dick]

Out....it's a no brainer. If we don't get out now we will be trapped in the United States of Europe ran by Angela Merkel for ever.

[Bantam boy]

Out out out!

[rjimmer]

I fear staying IN more than getting OUT. Gaddafi once said. "We'll send a million men to your country, each will have 6 wives and each wife will have 6 children".

[Rewulf]

I'm IN.

 

And you,being from Hungary ,I can understand why.

Nothing wrong with that at all,it works for you and it works for a lot of other EU nationals too.

But if the UK left the EU ,would it even effect you? What if Hungary left ?

Most interesting is the fact that most of the 'in ' crowd have this idea that if there was a Brexit, all EU migrants would have to go home.

Likewise all UK expats would have to come back.

What a complete load of rubbish!

The idea is we decide who comes in,not be told by Brussels.

Stop giving them money for doing virtually nothing.

Stop them making up stupid rules and laws that it seems they do just to justify their existence.

If coming out means you have to apply for a work permit or a visa every once in a while,its not the end of the world.

You have to in Australia,NZ ,the US and Canada ,it doesnt stop people going there does it ?

What it does stop is the opportunist migrant who is going there to take more than what he/she is willing to put in.

[mossberg-operator]

And you,being from Hungary ,I can understand why.

Nothing wrong with that at all,it works for you and it works for a lot of other EU nationals too.

But if the UK left the EU ,would it even effect you? What if Hungary left ?

Most interesting is the fact that most of the 'in ' crowd have this idea that if there was a Brexit, all EU migrants would have to go home.

Likewise all UK expats would have to come back.

What a complete load of rubbish!

The idea is we decide who comes in,not be told by Brussels.

Stop giving them money for doing virtually nothing.

Stop them making up stupid rules and laws that it seems they do just to justify their existence.

If coming out means you have to apply for a work permit or a visa every once in a while,its not the end of the world.

You have to in Australia,NZ ,the US and Canada ,it doesnt stop people going there does it ?

What it does stop is the opportunist migrant who is going there to take more than what he/she is willing to put in.

Couldn't disagree. Me here: EU works for me. Not on any benefits. Never been. Working. However I understand that the British are fed up with Brussels. Me too on some topics. (Gun laws).

[oowee]

 

And you,being from Hungary ,I can understand why.

Nothing wrong with that at all,it works for you and it works for a lot of other EU nationals too.

But if the UK left the EU ,would it even effect you? What if Hungary left ?

Most interesting is the fact that most of the 'in ' crowd have this idea that if there was a Brexit, all EU migrants would have to go home.

Likewise all UK expats would have to come back.

What a complete load of rubbish!

The idea is we decide who comes in,not be told by Brussels.

Stop giving them money for doing virtually nothing.

Stop them making up stupid rules and laws that it seems they do just to justify their existence.

If coming out means you have to apply for a work permit or a visa every once in a while,its not the end of the world.

You have to in Australia,NZ ,the US and Canada ,it doesnt stop people going there does it ?

What it does stop is the opportunist migrant who is going there to take more than what he/she is willing to put in.

Not all but some would have to come back with a reformed benefit policy and the same would be true of migrants wanting to come or staying here. If not why leave?

We decide on non EU migrants already and yet this is a large group of migrants that we are unable to control with or without the EU.

This is laughable. The cost of this in admin alone is huge and the cost to the individual unworkable. A large proportion of the UK workforce is a foreign national. We just dont have enough people prepared or in some cases able to do the work we need.

[secretagentmole]

Not all but some would have to come back with a reformed benefit policy and the same would be true of migrants wanting to come or staying here. If not why leave?

We decide on non EU migrants already and yet this is a large group of migrants that we are unable to control with or without the EU.

This is laughable. The cost of this in admin alone is huge and the cost to the individual unworkable. A large proportion of the UK workforce is a foreign national. We just dont have enough people prepared or in some cases able to do the work we need.

You don't seem to get the idea do you. It may not necessarily affect those who are here and working now, but it sure as hell stops all of those who see it as a right as soon as their state joins the EU of hightailing it over here for a free house, free money and the chance to see Uncle Abu's kebab shop!

[Rewulf]

 

This is laughable. The cost of this in admin alone is huge and the cost to the individual unworkable. A large proportion of the UK workforce is a foreign national. We just dont have enough people prepared or in some cases able to do the work we need.

 

Its not laughable at all,its how a country that is interested in protecting its people and borders operates.

Brussels isnt interested in our people ,borders or freedoms,to mention the cost of admin when speaking about the EU machine IS laughable though!

Yes, a large proportion of our workforce are foreign nationals, why ? We dont lack in home grown people in this country.

If we can remove the yoke of the EU ,maybe we can have the will and the way to put some of those people into meaningful employment.

You think it cant be done ?

If you think like that,nothing will change for the better,but it can certainly get worse.

[Dekers]

Ok, just scanned a few of the last posts, and I'm getting the impression that Foreign/EU nationals living in this country want us to stay in the EU, and British Nationals want us out......

 

Funny that!

 

[scolopax]

Well I want IN and will vote IN.

[sportsbob]

Well I want IN and will vote IN.

Why?

[Teal]

Quite a few posters have remarked about the younger votes wanting to stay in. Let's not forget, we are talking about the future of the country not the past. The youth are the future. The country where they will be working, paying taxes and building the economy whilst the older voters will be retiring or already have. As such I think it's wrong to dismiss their viewpoint, if anything I personally think it should be more relevant, regardless of whether their intention is to vote to stay in or to leave that their voice is considered.

[MonkeyKong]

I'm early 30's and will be voting out. A lot of my friends who were IN a year ago have switched since they've looked into it a bit more.

 

If the nation decides to vote in because it prefers the "status quo" of the EU, it will have been fooled. The explicitly stated goal of the EU is for complete political and financial union. That is what a vote to remain is actually for.

 

Whichever way we end up deciding, nothing is going to remain the same.

[dodeer]

I will vote to stay in the EU.

 

Reasons:-

 

Mostly personal and some may say selfish but I work in Europe, deal in euros , travel a lot and with guns, and within the next year will set up a couple of companies when I move.

 

I think leaving will make it harder for me and to be blunt I don't think will change the importantissues in our lives.