kingo15 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Whilst having my morning dump. Browsing thou the usual rubbish. Came across a topic in one of the shooting pages. Only reading it because my others half son had a go with a small .410 at burghley house on Sunday and thought about getting him one. There were about 15 comments stating that you can't use one for clays as it won't break them. I'm not sure why people talk drivel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Mine broke plenty on Sunday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 How old is the boy and how physically big is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 They will break sporting clays all day long within reason. However you will struggle with Trap birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 .410 is an ideal little gun for clays, its feeding them thats the trouble, i load for everything, but only have a home made .410 rto, if i had a decent mec or better still a PW 800 or similar in .410, i might even take up regular clay shooting again and buy a Browning in .410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 This will start a whole new debate I guess when I tell you he will be 6 in October. But he does like coming shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 The same could be said of a 12, if you put the lead where the clay is, you get a broken clay. Ive got a old single barrel poaching 410 and have shot a round of 100 esp with it. It certainly broke the singles, but I did struggle on the simos Have had a few nice pheasants with it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 6, if he can handle the gun then whats the problem. Hes not goung to be on his own with it and all the basics and safty will be in his mind before the national curriculum fill his mind up with useless information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 This will start a whole new debate I guess when I tell you he will be 6 in October. But he does like coming shooting. Start em young the draw of the gun is strong if you catch them young enough, mine all started as toddlers took them local on the river they just took to it like the metaphorical ducks to water. Only the youngest lad is a little more rifle orientated than the others but he is still keen just not quite as keen as the others. Hoping now he has a 12 magnum he likes he will do more this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Apparently a 410 can't kill pheasants, duck or geese either........... My advice for getting a 410 for a youngster is to get it with as little choke as possible, if shooting to 30 yards, IC/1/4 choke is more than enough and 1/2 usually the most before no real improvement. Check manufacturers site for choking, don't rely on importers or shops which only ever seem to order full choked guns. For cartridges, no need for any shot bigger than No7 or No 7 1/2 shot in 3" magnum, No 8 in 2 1/2" and No 9 in 2", especially for clays as bigger shot = more holes in pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Someone should tell the 2 magpie branchers that I killed the other day with a single shot just how useless a 410 is. Eley fourlong with size 6 shot, about 50 feet up in a conifer. I hadn't even seen the second one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the crowman Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Whilst having my morning dump. Browsing thou the usual rubbish. Came across a topic in one of the shooting pages. Only reading it because my others half son had a go with a small .410 at burghley house on Sunday and thought about getting him one. There were about 15 comments stating that you can't use one for clays as it won't break them. I'm not sure why people talk drivel. My eleven year old son dusts them....and it's very impressive to see 😊😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted May 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 That is my only other concern that he his better than me haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly47 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Last time I took the .410 out it accounted for 8 pigeons all dead before they hit the floor.......... It dusts clays! Tedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttfjlc Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 This will start a whole new debate I guess when I tell you he will be 6 in October. But he does like coming shooting. My son was beating at 5, started using an air rifle at 6, then at the ripe old age of 9 my parents bought a 28 bore for him to use, first time at grimsthorpe we picked the easier stands to build his confidence then on our second trip he got 37 x 100 doing the round properly. It was amazing to see how far that little gun could reach, so my point is there really isn't a definitive age to start, you've just got to gauge how he reacts and encourage him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Best fun in the world shooting skeet with a 410 and the others in the squad expect you to miss so don't make fun of you when you do and get impressed when you hit them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Where was this article and what exactly did it say ? Nobody with any sense is going to say .410 can't break clays, maybe they just meant they can't kill real clays, you know beyond 30 yards or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db135 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 My 410 mossberg pump hushpower has nailed 12 crows 2 pidgeons and 3 squirrels on Sunday fed it a diet of 18 gram no6 fiocci through fixed full choke folded them crows up at 25/30 yards from hide no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 First time I had a go shooting a Shotgun at 10 years old was with a 410. I went with my Dad to.shoot pigeons. He had bought a 410 with a cut down stock so I could have a go. He had previously shown my how to hold a gun by using an air rifle. First few hots were at a bit of paper pinned go a tree so I had an idea wherd the shot went. We then sat by the edge of a wood next to a Barley Field. In the next hour we shot 23 pigeons. I shot 7.. Had no problems with clays either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 i personally shoot my .410 more than my 12g hundreds of rabbits no joke and about 50 hare's countless pigeons but only 3 crows, an dozens of pheasants. love light lightness to carry it about on long walks rough shooting, now got an itch for a 28g only if i could find a hushpower one the money be out my pocket with in a flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Buy him a cheap single barel and let him shoot static stood up clays, I've shot some long clays with a .410 and got good breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Buy him a cheap single barel and let him shoot static stood up clays, I've shot some long clays with a .410 and got good breaks. This is what i was thinking as this is what he used on sunday at the game fair. He could hold it it as he is quite big for his age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 after few static shots release few balloons to blow around the floor,these help with idea of a moving gun.......as 6 yr old will need to chop stock fair bit,and ideally 9g shells... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 after few static shots release few balloons to blow around the floor,these help with idea of a moving gun.......as 6 yr old will need to chop stock fair bit,and ideally 9g shells... Thank you. Thanks everyone for your replies. Best get myself a bigger cabinet then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx4cabbie Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I got a 9mm garden gun recently, and it came with some 7.5 shot shells, with which it would break aerial clays at 20 or so yards. Once finished, I got some 10 shot shells, which will break a static clay at 15 yards but bounce off an aerial clay. Never known a .410 not to break them, a mate had a Lee Enfield no4 converted to .410 and it would smash anything the 12 would. Heavy sod, but you didn't chop your swing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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