AberFowl Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I work for a building contractor... We work 10 hour days 5 days a week with the odd Saturday aswel...so 50 hour weeks, paid weekly. We get 4weeks holiday, Holiday pay paid in advance the Friday before holiday starts. Holidays are set every year for us My question is...does my boss have to pay me 50hours per week for holidays by law? As I only get paid for 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Are the 'extra' 10 hours travelling time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkAYA Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Do you have a basic hour working week?. Do you get overtime?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 We don't get paid travel time. Leave site at 5 and we are paid till 5. Standard hourly rate for overtime...no time +1/4 or anything like that We all do 50hour week every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Depends on what your contracted hours are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 No contract, nothing in writing But on my pay slip it is 50 hours.. £## Doesn't say 40 hours + 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 No contract, nothing in writing But on my pay slip it is 50 hours.. £## Doesn't say 40 hours + 10 Ethically they should pay you for a usual week, but legally, with no contract, in not sure where you stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Ethically they should pay you for a usual week, but legally, with no contract, in not sure where you stand Yes... I assume with the 'nothing in writing' I don't have a leg to stand on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I've worked at places where you get an average of your last 13 weeks, so guys used to hammer it when they were going away. With nothing in writing I'd say your knackered really, also you should be getting ot for the extra ten hours as well. Start looking for a new job before you lay down the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) Yes... I assume with the 'nothing in writing' I don't have a leg to stand on I'm not sure, I think that you could propose an implied contract with a consistent track record but you may end up wracking up a legal bill and finding post holiday that your hours reduce to nothing. It may be worth a call to citizens advice or if you have legal expenses on your home insurance they may help or guide you. I have a horrible feeling you may unintentionally cut your nose off to spite your face. Edited July 6, 2017 by ElvisThePelvis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 4 weeks ? Do you mean 28 days ? So 6 weeks minus 2 days . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 This is the problem with working for small one man band type outfits. It's all sort of hand to mouth on a short time basis. As far as I know it is a legal requirement to have a contract of employment within a month of starting work. This should outlined what you have agreed between you and your employer. This should cover what your contracted hours are and what your entitlements and obligations are. Other things like health and safety stuff. look it up on the gov. Site I'm sure that there is a load of stuff on there. But think yourself lucky that you have a job and your not on one of these Stupid zero hour contracts. Don't go and burn your bridges before you know what it is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 This is the problem with working for small one man band type outfits. It's all sort of hand to mouth on a short time basis. As far as I know it is a legal requirement to have a contract of employment within a month of starting work. This should outlined what you have agreed between you and your employer. This should cover what your contracted hours are and what your entitlements and obligations are. Other things like health and safety stuff. look it up on the gov. Site I'm sure that there is a load of stuff on there. But think yourself lucky that you have a job and your not on one of these Stupid zero hour contracts. Don't go and burn your bridges before you know what it is all about. You can issue temporary contracts for up to 2 years. We issue these instantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuffy Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 That's the same as where I'm at . So I just did 8 hr days when asked why I said , you pay me 40 hrs holiday when I have a week off so my week must be 40 hrs . Boss did the maths , short days in the winter , now we get 9 hrs for hols as that's what we average-ish . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1nut Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 I've been a contractor for a few years and my holiday is worked out on an average. If I do 50 hours a week every week my holiday pay would be 50 hours, if I do 20 a week every week I get paid 20 on my weeks holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) The company I work for employs 30+ men No contract given Been with him 3 years and never had an issue. Never bothered about the few hours short on the holiday pay, just wondered out of curiosity if by law I was entitled to more. No intention of going in all guns blazing and taking the guy to court if I am entitled to more I know a few of the lads do have a big issue this time and have voiced opinions to office staff...the boss is away. Back tomorrow so will be interesting to see what is said I will add, I do my 50 and more often than not end up doing an extra couple here and there...most weeks are 52-58 hours No extra pay, standard rate, no bonuses and only 40hr hol pay. Edited July 6, 2017 by AberFowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1nut Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 The perm lads I work with had a pay out this year for average earnings. A law was passed where holiday pay should reflect the hours worked averaged out over so many weeks. Even as a contractor I'm entitled to the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Look at another way as the employer. Your getting paid for not doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberFowl Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Look at another way as the employer. Your getting paid for not doing anything. He's making more off me then I am off him...and he's doing nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 He's making more off me then I am off him...and he's doing nothing... That's something staff say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Well working in a factory all my life,We did overtime almost compulsory.. But it was always based on only 40 hrs Holiday pay.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 When I worked for a small firm (13 years) we got 28 days hol including bank hols. We got our daily rate pay for those days. No contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 This will give you the information. Link to gov site re contracts.>>> https://www.gov.uk/employment-contracts-and-conditions/overview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delwint Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) He's making more off me then I am off him...and he's doing nothing... That's because he's the boss and he finds the work, he has the stress of doing the books,quoting for jobs etc. I was down in Northampton yesterday looking at a job 3 hour round trip will I get the job? Probably not but you have to be in it to win it. Edited July 7, 2017 by Delwint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 That's because he's the boss and he finds the work, he has the stress of doing the books,quoting for jobs etc. I was down in Northampton yesterday looking at a job 3 hour round trip will I get the job? Probably not but you have to be in it to win it. What he said. He is also the one who took, takes the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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