Bought my first shotgun - Miroku MK38 Teague Sporter

[evolution380]

As some may have seen recently been looking to acquire my first shotgun.

Finally picked up a Miroku MK38 Teague Sporter. A bit of a bargain as it's been fettled with (no mid bead and different end bead along with recoil pad), this doesn't bother me however I actually quite like it.

 

For now though this should be a good all rounder for me on clays and at some point decoying, it will outshoot me that's for sure!

Checked the serial number and it appears to be a 2009 model.

Came with 3 x Extended Teague Chokes (I miscounted thought there was 4 originally)

1/2 1/2 and 1/4

And 2 x Invector Flush Fitting Chokes

Full & Full

In good all around condition although not captured it in these photos it does have a recoil reducer on it but it's fairly new to the gun and overall has a LOP of 15 inch with the adjustable trigger having movement to reduce or increase this. I don't mind the pad it's really comfy I just don't want people thinking I'm a bit of a pansy as recoil doesn't really bother me being a big lad. But I suppose I'll be great full after a full days shooting!

A few pictures.




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Edited August 14, 2017 by evolution380

[Lloyd90]

Can you hit anything with it though? Lol

 

Good luck mate

[steve d]

Those orrible easy hit fibre optic sights are usually just stuck on and are easily removable if you wanted to.

The A400 I just bought had one on, it went straight in the bin and is now replaced with a small brass bead.

It looks as if the original bead is still on yours-mine wasnt.

[oldypigeonpopper]

hello, that is looking good, classic guns those miroku, only thing i would consider is change the half choke for improved cylinder for clays, so imp/1/4 or imp/1/2, good luck

[evolution380]

Those orrible easy hit fibre optic sights are usually just stuck on and are easily removable if you wanted to.

The A400 I just bought had one on, it went straight in the bin and is now replaced with a small brass bead.

It looks as if the original bead is still on yours-mine wasnt.

 

 

Yes I'm going to take it to a gunsmith and have that taken off and the mid-bead extracted and replaces as i reckon thats been knocked in rather than off.

 

 

Can you hit anything with it though? Lol

 

Good luck mate

 

I've not had chance yet mate, was a big event on at the local clay grounds so i'll go one night this week and break a few. If not I can always hit myself around the head with it!

 

 

 

hello, that is looking good, classic guns those miroku, only thing i would consider is change the half choke for improved cylinder for clays, so imp/1/4 or imp/1/2, good luck

 

I'll have a look into that! I'll try and purchase a couple extra chokes. Thank You!

Edited August 14, 2017 by evolution380

[Westward]

hello, that is looking good, classic guns those miroku, only thing i would consider is change the half choke for improved cylinder for clays, so imp/1/4 or imp/1/2, good luck

Errr... Improved Cylinder and 1/4 are the same. Are you thinking of Skeet&1/4?

[krugerandsmith]

As some may have seen recently been looking to acquire my first shotgun.

 

Finally picked up a Miroku MK38 Teague Sporter. A bit of a bargain as it's been fettled with (no mid bead and different end bead along with recoil pad), this doesn't bother me however I actually quite like it.

 

For now though this should be a good all rounder for me on clays and at some point decoying, it will outshoot me that's for sure!

 

Checked the serial number and it appears to be a 2009 model.

 

Came with 3 x Extended Teague Chokes (I miscounted thought there was 4 originally)

 

1/2 1/2 and 1/4

 

And 2 x Invector Flush Fitting Chokes

 

Full & Full

 

In good all around condition although not captured it in these photos it does have a recoil reducer on it but it's fairly new to the gun and overall has a LOP of 15 inch with the adjustable trigger having movement to reduce or increase this. I don't mind the pad it's really comfy I just don't want people thinking I'm a bit of a pansy as recoil doesn't really bother me being a big lad. But I suppose I'll be great full after a full days shooting!

 

A few pictures.

 

post image url for forum

 

After a clean in better light:

 

get a photo url

 

 

Great well made guns. I've had mine for many years, its a grade 3 don't think that I will ever part with it.

[welshwarrior]

Errr... Improved Cylinder and 1/4 are the same. Are you thinking of Skeet&1/4?

Not in British gun making there not you talking Yank terms like most modern shooters, clue is at the start of his name Old.

[evolution380]

Not in British gun making there not you talking Yank terms like most modern shooters, clue is at the start of his name Old.

 

 

Have Teague tiddled on our British heritage to satisfy the yanks?

 

Looking to buy some extra chokes and the sizes are (I'm taking this from their website trying to order):

 

- Cylinder

- Skeet

- 1/4 Imp Cyl

- 3/8 Light Mod

- 1/2 Mod

- 5/8 Light Imp Mod

- 3/4 Imp Mod

- 7/8 Light Fill

- Full

- XFull

 

I was going to treat myself to 2 or 3 could anybody advise which?

 

I was going to get Skeet and 3/4 Imp Mod

 

That then gives me:

 

- 1/4

 

- 1/2 x 2

 

- Full x 2

 

- Skeet & 3/4?

 

I'll mainly be shooting skeet and sporting.

Edited August 14, 2017 by evolution380

[wymberley]

Bearing in mind that I don't do clays, but for skeet would it be worth getting a Cylinder?

 

Edit: Should have read the OP better - initially suggested swapping one of the Full for this, but 2 came with the gun so you already have them.

Edited August 14, 2017 by wymberley

[Duckandswing]

They are a beautiful gun. It's a great feeling getting your first ever shotgun.

[evolution380]

They are a beautiful gun. It's a great feeling getting your first ever shotgun.

 

 

Sure is!

 

I was in bad books immediately having cleaned an already 'clean' gun for 3 hours followed by an hour of making her point a laser at the wall as i shouted 'pull' and mounted the gun followed by sound effects.

 

It's a good job she expressed her distain for my shotgun before I tucked it in bed with us or I might have woke up with a black eye

[welshwarrior]

 

 

Have Teague tiddled on our British heritage to satisfy the yanks?

 

Looking to buy some extra chokes and the sizes are (I'm taking this from their website trying to order):

 

- Cylinder

- Skeet

- 1/4 Imp Cyl

- 3/8 Light Mod

- 1/2 Mod

- 5/8 Light Imp Mod

- 3/4 Imp Mod

- 7/8 Light Fill

- Full

- XFull

 

I was going to treat myself to 2 or 3 could anybody advise which?

 

I was going to get Skeet and 3/4 Imp Mod

 

That then gives me:

 

- 1/4

 

- 1/2 x 2

 

- Full x 2

 

- Skeet & 3/4?

 

I'll mainly be shooting skeet and sporting.

Not quite they mostly use both.

British. US

Cylinder. Cylinder

Imp Cyl. Skeet

1/4 Imp Cyl

1/2 Mod

3/4 Imp Mod

Full. Full

 

 

Before this though we talked about points of choke it's an evolving language and thanks to internet full of cross overs and misuse.

 

Like the American lady who asked what a 12 bore was in English. Well it's a 12 Bore in American it's a 12 Gauge she looked a little surprised when somelse explained we spoke English in England Americans had adapted it to their own language that was close but not English.

[Westward]

Not in British gun making there not you talking Yank terms like most modern shooters, clue is at the start of his name Old.

In old money 1/4 choke is 10 thou constriction and the American Improved Cylinder is also 10 thou constriction.

[evolution380]

Not quite they mostly use both.

British. US

Cylinder. Cylinder

Imp Cyl. Skeet

1/4 Imp Cyl

1/2 Mod

3/4 Imp Mod

Full. Full

 

 

Before this though we talked about points of choke it's an evolving language and thanks to internet full of cross overs and misuse.

 

Like the American lady who asked what a 12 bore was in English. Well it's a 12 Bore in American it's a 12 Gauge she looked a little surprised when somelse explained we spoke English in England Americans had adapted it to their own language that was close but not English.

 

 

Bloody heck,

 

I'll have to check before I order anything then!

 

I'm guessing in British Terms with what chokes I have I'd be best with

 

- Imp Cyl & 3/4

 

Have a fairly well rounded collection then.

[Duckandswing]

 

 

Bloody heck,

 

I'll have to check before I order anything then!

 

I'm guessing in British Terms with what chokes I have I'd be best with

 

- Imp Cyl & 3/4

 

Have a fairly well rounded collection then.

You have more than enough. I pretty much shoot 1/4 and 1/2 all the time

[welshwarrior]

In old money 1/4 choke is 10 thou constriction and the American Improved Cylinder is also 10 thou constriction.

And British Imp Cyl is 5 thou whilst American Skeet is 5 thou.

 

So what are you say?

 

OB said to use Imp Cyl and 1/4 so 5thou and 10 thou

 

Not as you suggest 10 thou 10 thou by mixing the two systems together.

[Me matt]

Lovely looking gun, enjoy.

[Old farrier]

Well all choking aside

 

Very nice looking first gun

 

You chose wisely sir

 

 

All the best

Of

[Newbie to this]

I've got 1/4 & 3/4 in mine for clays, but to be fair it wouldn't matter what is in mine I'd still miss a lot.

[dnic]

If you want to remove the easy hit bead yourself it's very easy. Heat it up with a hairdryer, peel it off. Clean the residue off with alcohol wipes (nail varnish remover will do the same)

 

Have a look on you tube about removing/replacing beads, easy to do and it'll save you a trip to the gunsmith.

Edited August 15, 2017 by dnic

[dougall]

Top guns.

personally dont like extended chokes.

If you must buy more 3/8ths teague will break any sporting clay target thrown...........After fiddling for @ 15 yrs I stick with 1/4 & 3/8ths.....dont think Invector are bad either ..they are plenty good enough....if you have money burning a hole for shooting related purposes your best investment is a few lessons. All best.

[evolution380]

Top guns.

personally dont like extended chokes.

If you must buy more 3/8ths teague will break any sporting clay target thrown...........After fiddling for @ 15 yrs I stick with 1/4 & 3/8ths.....dont think Invector are bad either ..they are plenty good enough....if you have money burning a hole for shooting related purposes your best investment is a few lessons. All best.

 

 

I'll probably chuck 1/4 and 1/2 in and forget about it for a while as i'll mainly be shooting sporting.

 

I'm going to continue having lessons, with how many cartridges we get through over 45-60mins it means the lesson only costs the best part of about £15 which is peanuts imo.

 

Rather get consistent doing things the right way and building up the muscle memory under a watchful eye.

 

 

 

If you want to remove the easy hit bead yourself it's very easy. Heat it up with a hairdryer, peel it off. Clean the residue off with alcohol wipes (nail varnish remover will do the same)

 

Have a look on you tube about removing/replacing beads, easy to do and it'll save you a trip to the gunsmith.

 

I'll have a look at some videos, would rather replace it and return it to how miroku intended, i've mounted hundreds of times in the living room over the past couple of days and everytime the easy hit fibre optic is visible, so it will be more of a hinderance catching my I imagine whilst looking at the bird than an aid for correct gun mount.

 

I prefer subtle.

 

On another Note:

 

Are the recoil reducers frowned upon or generally accepted? I think it has the Graco Gracoil Adjustable Recoil Reducer fitted, I find it very comfortable actually and it does fit me well but am I going to get laughed out of the clay grounds for having one? Not that I'm bothered but at least I can mentally prepare myself for the onslaught!

 

It looks like this:

 

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[Gordon R]

Why would anyone frown upon a recoil reducer or laugh - why would they? It is a matter of personal choice, just like skeet vests, chokes or cartridges.

 

PS - good choice of gun. I would leave the Easy-hit sight on. They are useful to check gun fit. Once shooting, you won't see the sight, a replacement sight or a brass bead. Just ignore it.

Edited August 15, 2017 by Gordon R

[welshwarrior]

Good gun choice I tell client to fit chokes 1/2 &1/4 are fine and shoot the gun until they can tell the difference most novices miss because of their error not choke.

 

I would remove the bead either leave it bare or fit a simple plain bead.