rbrowning2 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 So following on from the 50cal and Mars rifles now they are to review the regulations of air weapons licensing England and Wales thanks to a request from the Suffolk coroner. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-to-review-air-weapons-regulation-in-england-and-wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 only a matter of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Here we go; looks like those I have will possibly be made redundant, so S1 here we come. Believe it or not, this was first mooted in 1920. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Blimey, 1920 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 they`ll be licencing spudguns soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 it is a matter of time.now scotland has done it we will have to follow.to be seen we are doing some thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Madness! Id be better off trying to club you to death than shoot you with an air gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 it is a matter of time.now scotland has done it we will have to follow.to be seen we are doing some thing. And Northern Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Out of interest .how is the airgun industry in NI. ? Sales and availability of airguns in general .? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Out of interest .how is the airgun industry in NI. ? Sales and availability of airguns in general .? Not sure how it would compare with the rest of the UK my first gun was a BSA Airsporter. The fact that you need a FAC, unless people need a air rifle for shooting round buildings etc they tend to go for a .22 Rimfire. Some for sale on the link. Buy and Sell Guns & Accessories Online- gundeal.co.uk www.gundeal.co.uk/ Edited October 16, 2017 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I don't know what all the fuss is about.Is it not better that they are licenced?they are firearms after all.Every time some muppet injures some animal or civilian it falls on our shoulders.When I had sub 12lb,it was in the cabinet with the rimfire and 243.All where treated with the same caution and respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I don't know what all the fuss is about.Is it not better that they are licenced?they are firearms after all.Every time some muppet injures some animal or civilian it falls on our shoulders.When I had sub 12lb,it was in the cabinet with the rimfire and 243.All where treated with the same caution and respect.No it certainly isn't better that they are licenced .it would be the beginning of the end of all shooting sports in the UK . The old " im alright Jack "attitude will only bite you in the assp sooner or later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 So as ordanance has said above .if you need a gun and it has to go on ticket .why buy an expensive pcp and bottle etc .just buy a cheap .22 rimmy .10 times the power twice the range (averages ) 1/4 the price .= Death of the airgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 So as ordanance has said above .if you need a gun and it has to go on ticket .why buy an expensive pcp and bottle etc .just buy a cheap .22 rimmy .10 times the power twice the range (averages ) 1/4 the price .= Death of the airgun Because you can't go using a rimfire around a farm yard likewise in a compact wood when after squirrel.Sub 12lb and FAC air will always have a placed on vermin control.The SGC didn't see shotguns disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 So how we'll has it worked in Scotland? How many licenced their air guns? How many handed them in? How many remain unlicensed? Surly in the long term it can do nothing but harm the sport, how many youths will not be able to afford the licence or get their parents or guardians to agree to allow them to get a licence. Progression from air gun to rifle or shotgun is how a lot start in the sport at a young age. Then will you have to show you have a place to shoot them and may be the back garden will not do. The trade will suffer air guns and pistols are an important revenue for them so roll the years forward and likely less gun shops add this to the ever increasing cost of shooting and we could end up with very few guns shops across the country. What's next a test before you can buy any firearm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 So how we'll has it worked in Scotland? How many licenced their air guns? How many handed them in? How many remain unlicensed? You could choose not to hand in or licence your air rifles, but that would be illegal and you could go to jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I don't know what all the fuss is about.Is it not better that they are licenced?they are firearms after all.Every time some muppet injures some animal or civilian it falls on our shoulders.When I had sub 12lb,it was in the cabinet with the rimfire and 243.All where treated with the same caution and respect. Bit late with millions in circulation for scrotes & scum to get there hands on No it certainly isn't better that they are licenced .it would be the beginning of the end of all shooting sports in the UK . The old " im alright Jack "attitude will only bite you in the assp sooner or later +1 they keep chipping away it slowly ,more and more restriction's till there's nowt left. having had legally owned guns banned & taken off me twice this really winds me up. Typical" i'm all right jack don't affect me" attitude which makes kicking UK gun owners in the scrotum so easy. no unity ,no voice no contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Bit late with millions in circulation for scrotes & scum to get there hands on That is like saying there is no point in having any laws because scum will brake them. If they did get their hands on them it would be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I wouldn't mind if it was like the rod licence for fishing, off down the post office fill out a form done, but what are the chances of it being that straight forward. If the police have to visit and say they follow the fac rules, you need somewhere to shoot, not just your garden how many of us started out with a springer in the back garden, I'm guessing a lot. It's a slippery slope ☹☹ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I wouldn't mind if it was like the rod licence for fishing, off down the post office fill out a form done, but what are the chances of it being that straight forward. If the police have to visit and say they follow the fac rules, you need somewhere to shoot, not just your garden how many of us started out with a springer in the back garden, I'm guessing a lot. It's a slippery slope ☹☹ Exactly this . I couldn't put it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Because you can't go using a rimfire around a farm yard likewise in a compact wood when after squirrel.Sub 12lb and FAC air will always have a placed on vermin control.The SGC didn't see shotguns disappear.22lr can be down to 16ftlb Sgc could be a 9mm garden gun Although I love my airguns I can see why many don't bother. The guy I shoot for uses 22lr for everything and hates airguns. It'll just kill the whole trade of airguns in the uk. You need to visit an ft club and the new people coming into the sport that I guarantee won't bother to continue after they're licensed. Edited October 16, 2017 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 That is like saying there is no point in having any laws because scum will brake them. If they did get their hands on them it would be illegal. Does that make any difference? It's illegal to drive without insurance but it's estimated that 1 million cars are on the road uninsured. The problem is that there's no deterrent, the same with any crime where people get a fine, suspended sentence, community service or similar soft, lefty ****. Deliberate offence should mean a big penalty. I've always thought that first convictions should carry a big sentence as a real deterrent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyB Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Air rifles are a fantastic gateway into all forms of shooting. The fact they do not require a license means the bar for trying shooting is low enough for many to try it out. Some of these people go on to other types of shooting sport but all retain an understanding of the shooting world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Exactly . The more people in the UK that shoot .the more tolerance there is for shooting sports and a bigger voice . Lose all the airgunners and the remaining sec 1 and 2 owners will find it harder to keep their guns when the government come for them . Stand together now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 We get a hell of a lot of people who dip their toe in the water through our club with sub 12 ft/lb air rifles as its accessible and doesnt require a load of outlay/ you can pay and play. If it was on licence it would be a real blow for all shooting sports. I know a lot of people myself included that it was a gateway into FAC and SGC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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