Mr.C Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 My own piece of English history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Mr.C said: My own piece of English history. How nice is that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Mr.C said: My own piece of English history. That sure is a lovely gun. I particularly like the very sleek top lever, beautiful engraving and Damascus barrels. What more could you wish for in a gun ? OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 10 hours ago, buze said: Thanks for the pic @JohnfromUK it looks fantastic, the engraving is awesome. I think to be honest, the pictures flatter it a bit. The engraving is well executed, but relatively light on coverage, one hammer is non original (though a good match) and re chequering/refinishing wood has left the metal slightly proud in places. The sleeved tubes could also have been 'struck down' a bit more, though the upside of that is that it has plenty of wall thickness to resist dents! At probably 140 years (ish), it has had a few ups and downs in life. Overall, it is a nice honest gun that was not expensive when I got it 30+ years ago, fits me pretty well, and is very usable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 10 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: You do find hammerless Powells with this mechanism, and of course the Horsley has a another ambidextrous system - and all of the 'push forward' underlevers (Woodward, Lang, thumbhole Purdey, Murcott's 'mousetrap' etc) are ambidextrous, as is the 'pull up' Darne, though that has a side safety to upset the cack handed. I would add to that list Westley Richards early pull back top lever similar to Horsley but it did not last long as, from my experiense, it is not easy to use. I have it on a mint pinfire identical to the one Victoria gave to Albert for his 21st birthday I think it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Another of my old Pape 16g showing its nicely figured stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 10 hours ago, islandgun said: excuse my ignorance OF, is that a rifle, Rigby or similar, if so are the barrels rifled ? 470 double rifle rifled barrels set up so both barrels shoot at same point of impact at 80——100 yards the Rigby is a 416 but I darent post a picture of it as it lacks a barrel ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Old Boggy said: Another of my old Pape 16g showing its nicely figured stock That is a lovely stock ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: 470 double rifle rifled barrels set up so both barrels shoot at same point of impact at 80——100 yards the Rigby is a 416 but I darent post a picture of it as it lacks a barrel ???? great stuff, what weight of load would that be and what speed , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I am a huge side by side fan count me in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, islandgun said: great stuff, what weight of load would that be and what speed , Assortment of bullet weight usually about 400 grains and try to get the loads the same as it is important that point of impact is the same for expanding and solids hence the second barrel (choked)? solid in that one and the buffalo was head on the rifle is currently hunting in the dark continent sadly without me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: Assortment of bullet weight usually about 400 grains and try to get the loads the same as it is important that point of impact is the same for expanding and solids hence the second barrel (choked)? solid in that one and the buffalo was head on the rifle is currently hunting in the dark continent sadly without me I know nothing about this type of firearm. so I hope you dont mind me asking what to some are silly questions, I guess then, from what your saying you can fire expanding ammo through a rifled barrel ! and given a load of just under an ounce [25g] and another assumption that your not using 7,s, do you use bb,s/T,s, if so i also assume that a relatively small number of big shot will hold a pattern out to 100yds and this pattern would also have to be very tight at that range, confused IG actually now i think about it firing shot through a rifled barrel doesnt seem possible Edited April 21, 2018 by islandgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I thought these may be of interest to a 20 bore SBS user, William Powell Deluxe cleaning kits. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/William-Powell-Deluxe-20-Bore-Gun-Cleaning-Kit/282933031172?hash=item41e01f7104:g:GVIAAOSw~y9ZDI~A https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/William-Powell-Crown-20-Bore-Gun-Cleaning-Outfit/282933030546?hash=item41e01f6e92:g:aGgAAOSwuMZZDIo6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 44 minutes ago, islandgun said: I know nothing about this type of firearm. so I hope you dont mind me asking what to some are silly questions, I guess then, from what your saying you can fire expanding ammo through a rifled barrel ! and given a load of just under an ounce [25g] and another assumption that your not using 7,s, do you use bb,s/T,s, if so i also assume that a relatively small number of big shot will hold a pattern out to 100yds and this pattern would also have to be very tight at that range, confused IG actually now i think about it firing shot through a rifled barrel doesnt seem possible It’s a rifle not a shotgun ? they do build shotguns to fire bullets they have rifled section at the last 3—4 inches from the muzzle ill try and get some more pictures for you in a few days busy catching up on a few bits at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, islandgun said: confused IG This is the sort of solid shot Old Farrier is refering to. Not a cartridge for use by `girls`. The standing joke about this calibre was that it killed at one end and maimed at the other, as a testimoney to its violent recoil. Its a dangerous game / big game rifle. Centre of the 3 below is the 470 nitro express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumber Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 T Wild, 3" chambers, 3/4 choke in both. I wonder who EW 1940 and CMC 65 were and what tales told? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m greeny Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) I'm in the club got a modern yildiz 3 1/2 inch and a Spanish 3inch hammer gun that I've recently purchased to do up but I like shooting it that much the tarting up will have to wait a while Edited April 21, 2018 by m greeny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) Side By Side box lock ejector by Armstrong of Newcastle -Upon -Tyne SxS 20 Bore hammer gun by J.F.Smythe Gun maker of the North Feltwad Edited April 21, 2018 by Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Pretty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 My old 16g Charles Hellis BLNE made in 1931 for `Thesiger`. My research has yet to establish that this was the intrepid explorer Sir Wilfred Patrick Thesiger (1910-2003). Possibly a 21st.birthday present. The leather covered recoil pad I put on myself. Not perfect, but not too bad for a first attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 My James Woodward `The Automatic` push forward underlever made in 1878 for George Robert Canning Harris (4th.Baron Harris) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Some lovely guns here just a thought ? a gun is a 140 years old and the walnut stock came from a tree that was probably 200 years old just wondering who planted it and why and the period of history that the wood has seen how many kings and queens how many years of war and peace how many small children climbed onto the branches just reminds me that we are custodians of massive amounts of history brilliant thread all the best of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) Here’s a few cases to get a idea of what the double rifle fires 410 3 inch. For scale 416 Rigby empty case 308 empty case 222 Remington empty case 17 hmr loaded round sorry haven’t got any 470 available for picture there all loaded and with the gun Edited April 21, 2018 by Old farrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Guys, I wonder if between everyone it would be possible to come up with the retail prices for a Webley and Scott model 700 and an AyA model 25 Boxlock. When new in1975? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, wymberley said: Guys, I wonder if between everyone it would be possible to come up with the retail prices for a Webley and Scott model 700 and an AyA model 25 Boxlock. When new in1975? Cheers Webley £346 & AYA 25 £ 235 in Oct 1974 . Dunno about the inflation rate tho` ! Edited April 21, 2018 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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