WinchesterDave Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Hi guys, First driven day for me yesterday. Good start to the season apart from getting soaked!!! My gun was fine all day, however when I got home I noticed that when closing the gun the top lever wouldn't re-centre! It was stuck in the open position.. Never seen this before and it has never happened on any of my guns before after getting wet. Any suggestions? I was able to close the gun and then manually realign the top lever and then open it again but it was rubbing the wood. Thanks guys, Dave Its a Beretta 690 Field iii by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Dave, please believe me when I say I speak with good intent. Twice in the passed couple of weeks it appears that you have either not spotted them or have chosen to ignore the warning signs. Are you going to get away with it the third time? Just like the car, there's something obviously - and possibly seriously- wrong with the gun - get it to a 'smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted October 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, wymberley said: Dave, please believe me when I say I speak with good intent. Twice in the passed couple of weeks it appears that you have either not spotted them or have chosen to ignore the warning signs. Are you going to get away with it the third time? Just like the car, there's something obviously - and possibly seriously- wrong with the gun - get it to a 'smith. Cheers for getting back to me mate! I don't understand why this has happened? The gun has been faultless and has been wet before. I regularly oil the wood after a shoot. It was bought new in 2016 and hasn't been used extensively by any stretch of the imagination. Edited October 14, 2018 by WinchesterDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted October 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Can wood 'swell' when it gets soaked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 I had exactly the same with my S pigeon. I had to use another gun. All sorted when it was dried out for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted October 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, oowee said: I had exactly the same with my S pigeon. I had to use another gun. All sorted when it was dried out for a few days. A reassuring comment to read! Thanks oowee. It really did get wet yesterday... more so than it has before! I've tried the gun again today and although it's still rubbing it is better than yesterday. Once dried thoroughly I will put some wood oil on it Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Let it dry long and slowly. Do NOT take the woodwork from the metal, it will almost certainly move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Yes, looks to me like the wood has swelled enough to prevent the top lever closing. Be patient and let it dry slowly, then wood oil if it is as I expect an oilded finish. Just shows how close the fitting was originally. Also just check there is not a very small bit of gunge in the action somewhere. I assume you have taken it apart etc etc and cleaned it. Guns, even very moderate priced ones these days are machined to very tight tolerances ...cnc .... and even a small particle can foul up and action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted October 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Let it dry long and slowly. Do NOT take the woodwork from the metal, it will almost certainly move. Noted. Thanks. I wouldn't attempt that. Cheers for the reply:) 12 minutes ago, Walker570 said: Yes, looks to me like the wood has swelled enough to prevent the top lever closing. Be patient and let it dry slowly, then wood oil if it is as I expect an oilded finish. Just shows how close the fitting was originally. Also just check there is not a very small bit of gunge in the action somewhere. I assume you have taken it apart etc etc and cleaned it. Guns, even very moderate priced ones these days are machined to very tight tolerances ...cnc .... and even a small particle can foul up and action. Thanks for the reply walker. It's got a while before another shoot so it will be let to dry slowly. Oil finsihed, yes. Will apply oil once top lever isn't catching. In terms of taking it apart; barrels, hand guard and reciever/stock for basic maintainance. I haven't and wont remove any wood from metal. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Take the forend off, remove the barrels and dry any excess wetness. Then put the forend back on to the barrels but off of the action. Stand both parts in freely moving dry air and face it all downwards. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 It can only be a wood issue.....metal doesn't swell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterDave Posted October 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 43 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Take the forend off, remove the barrels and dry any excess wetness. Then put the forend back on to the barrels but off of the action. Stand both parts in freely moving dry air and face it all downwards. Good luck. Thanks TC 20 minutes ago, panoma1 said: It can only be a wood issue.....metal doesn't swell! Indeed ha! Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, WinchesterDave said: Thanks TC Indeed ha! Cheers. I know it seemed obvious, but it's true nevertheless! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Dry it long and slow in dry but not hot air on the action ensure the forend is on the barrels and gets the same treatment. After the long slow dry the wood needs resealing inside and out and the metal work needs a good clean and lubricate then reassembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: It can only be a wood issue.....metal doesn't swell! Are you sure ????😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, Old farrier said: Are you sure ????😂😂 Well over time, it may rust! And maybe laminate?....but it doesn't swell in the rain! 😙 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Well over time, it may rust! And maybe laminate?....but it doesn't swell in the rain! 😙 But it dose in the sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 those sort of guns..............shouldnt the wood be bone dry and then painted with varnish to make it waterproof .....no oil at all ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) Improperly seasoned/poorly selected wood ! Edited October 14, 2018 by matone addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Shouldn’t happen on a gun of quality. Wood should be seasoned and properly finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Agree,it should be ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: But it dose in the sun Yes but it doesn't in the rain!..........However Wood does, and that's what I was commenting on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 I was not suggesting taking the action apart just removing the barrels as normal to clean. My 410 O/U would not close the top lever last week during a drive and I feared the worst, however a quick look revealed a small bit of leaf trapped between action and barrel....removed that and it closed no problem. Just shows how close tolerances are with this modern CNC stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 I have read somewhere that the woodwork stands well proud of the action on this gun. Poorly finished wood and water in the end grain I bet. When it's all well dry get someone to seal that end grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: Yes but it doesn't in the rain!..........However Wood does, and that's what I was commenting on! I know that’s why I put smiley 😂😂 on my first reply all the best of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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