Guerini Guy Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 Set up my Rotary a couple of days ago, which I have not used for more than a year. I set the decoys on the end of the arms and then took the whole lot into the field for final set up. Now in my memory of using this kit before, I was convinced that the rotary worked in an anti-clockwise direction, but when it started this time it went clockwise. Rather than change the birds around, I simply reversed the polarity for the afternoon. Worked ok of course but the rotary did seem rather slow with a 12Ah battery that had been fully charged the night before. So, just wondered whether it was just my memory letting me down, and what direction your rotarys move in? I'm sure it makes no difference to the effectiveness of the kit on pigeons (or maybe I've got that wrong too?) and can anybody tell me if reversing polarity on these units is likely to cause any longer term problems? By the way it is a three pronged Rotary from A1 decoys. Bought just a couple of years ago but not used much. Thanks in advance for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 I've tried both ways. Also had one going one way and one the other still had some come in. Not sure which is best. As soon as they start going wide I pull it in and stick with the ff5 and a floater. Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Doesn’t it depend on whether the bolt holding the arms down is a right or left hand thread?? If you go the wrong way it will unwind the bolt and fall off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Welded both mine on. Lost the top bit twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Both ways work. My magnets go the way the pigeons face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerini Guy Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Thanks for your "mostly" helpful responses. There was however a sensible reason for my confusion and question, in that on my Rotary, when the arms are in place, the rods that pigeons are secured on are tilted upwards slightly to the left, indicating that it should be traveling in an anti-clockwise direction, and I therefore set the decoys facing to the left, assuming the decoy should appear slightly rising as opposed to taking a nose dive. 😏 And yet when attaching the wiring to the battery in the correct colour scheme, it actually rotates in a clockwise direction. Just seemed a bit odd that the mechanics indicate one way but the motor travels the opposite when wired correctly. Nevertheless, I am quite happy to simply reverse polarity, but once again my question is, will this cause any damage to the motor on a long term basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 If you would like any of the PW massive to be anything more than 'mostly helpful' please put up some pictures of the base and end of the arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Its as JDog said some pictures might help. run in the clockwise direction the arms on my magnet also came with the holes/cradles facing downhill, all I did was to put a steel rod in the hole at the end of the arm and twisted it the other way. This is the one I have..https://www.a1decoy.co.uk/lightweight-pigeon-magnet-4053-p.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 When mounted my decoys are heads forward and heads up as if landing or rising. The rotation is anti-clockwise. If this helps. I will try and remember to take some pictures when I'm out next. I did observe a shooter on a fields last week and his birds were mounted horizontal and just rotated as if on a merry go round, approaching birds flared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, pigeon controller said: When mounted my decoys are heads forward and heads up as if landing or rising. The rotation is anti-clockwise. If this helps. I will try and remember to take some pictures when I'm out next. I did observe a shooter on a fields last week and his birds were mounted horizontal and just rotated as if on a merry go round, approaching birds flared. We do much the same, but cant the decoys inwards and get a lovely wing flash on each rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 This thread reminds me of the time I took Lloydi and OJW decoying on winter rape, a story I have recounted before. I left the intrepid duo to set up whilst I set up elsewhere. When I returned to them Lloydi had the rotary instruction manual out. Had he mounted the pigeons on the contraption that confronted me they would have flown not only backwards but upside down. OJW fared no better. His new flapper had a bird mounted on it which was perpendicular with the beak pointed at and very close to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 hhahahhahhahahh......................you can pick 'em boy..............i woul;dnt have been able to shoot for larfing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerini Guy Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 5 hours ago, JDog said: If you would like any of the PW massive to be anything more than 'mostly helpful' please put up some pictures of the base and end of the arms. As requested. . . . . . the magnet is from A1 Decoys - purchased 2-3 years ago. Little used and not used at all for over a year. Not sure of the model as it does not appear on the current A1 web site. Hopefully you can see that the angle of the pigeon arm rises up to the left and therefore indicating an anti-clockwise rotation - hence my memory of it traveling in that direction. I guess I must have simply reversed polarity when it was used before, but just don't remember doing that, but must have 'cos even I am not stupid enough to send them rotating tail first. Still now I do find it odd that mechanically it clearly shows the unit should travel anti-clockwise, but when wired correctly it travels clockwise? Its easy enough to reverse the polarity of course, but my question still is . . . . . does this cause any long term damage to the motor, or not a jot and it run equally efficiently in both directions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prem1234 Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) This is a youtube video by A1 Decoys that shows their range of 4 Magnets (2015)......it looks like one is going clockwise and three anti clockwise 😬 Edited January 3, 2019 by prem1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 GG I believe that the prong at the end of the arm can be removed and inserted the other way round. Where are the wing spreaders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Mine looks remarkably similar, it runs slower if the battery is connected incorrectly and from memory turns anti clockwise (my pronges cannot be switched). I don't think it would cause any harm if the wrong way, it's just a simple electric motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 I think most motors can be reversed without any adverse effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerini Guy Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, JDog said: GG I believe that the prong at the end of the arm can be removed and inserted the other way round. Where are the wing spreaders? Yeah it can of course, but that still gives the effect of the decoy lifting its head to see where it is going to nose dive !!! Didn't bother to fit the wing spreader for the purpose of these photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerini Guy Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, motty said: I think most motors can be reversed without any adverse effects. HURRAH . . . . . . . AT LAST Thanks to Motty and Ginger Cat for answering the question. My conclusion is, firstly, that the Rotary was obviously assembled incorrectly at point of manufacture, otherwise it would work in the proper way (relative to the angles on the unit) when leads are attached correctly to the battery. Secondly, I am now happy that my permanent use of reversed polarity is unlikely to cause any long term damage to the motor. The End 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 As promised this is a poor picture of the mounting end of my magnet showing the angle of the bird mouting spike with represents a heads up position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, pigeon controller said: As promised this is a poor picture of the mounting end of my magnet showing the angle of the bird mouting spike with represents a heads up position. Could you show us one with a pigeon on pls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, silver pigeon69 said: Could you show us one with a pigeon on pls? Yes next week if I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 The rotary I use (15 or so years old from UKShootwarehouse - their lightweight version) allows adjustment of the angle of the arms. I generally have one laying almost horizontally and the other about 30-40 degrees (if that makes sense). Thus when rotating, the pigeons, whether dead birds or artificial (hyper flaps), don't look as though they are on a merry go round (to quote PC above). I do however have each pigeon tilting inwards as if in landing mode. Seems to work for me .......mostly. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 I don't think it really matters too much what your dead birds look like when spinning, as long as they are visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, motty said: I don't think it really matters too much what your dead birds look like when spinning, as long as they are visible. I agree for distance birds it the movement that counts , close birds presentation is paramount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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