moondoggy Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, bumpy22 said: I was asked to dispatch a bull that was causing problems with my rifle. What was a bull doing with your rifle in the first place? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, moondoggy said: What was a bull doing with your rifle in the first place? 🙂 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Used to use a clay cart in a 12. Dropped very big stuff, but .410 is defo up to sheep and pigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Ive used no6 through a 12 to dispatch sheep in the past. As said before back of the head and they drop with no suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Try a .308 with a rusty barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 .308 is a bit overkill for dispatch on sheep (which may be in a shed or pen), but I have been called to use mine on a big Simmental steer running amok with a broken leg and also on a couple of Friesian cows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 As bumpy says, a letter stating why you need it etc then if challenged you won't get any issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 22 is more than adequate for sheep. 410 will kill horses and most cows. Pigs are trickier because the kill zone on a pigs head is relatively small and they're harder to get to stand still - they're clever and know when theres something up. Bulls or anything a bit angry you want 12g and a really angry bovine wants something like a 357 that you can shoot it from across the shed with! I'm saving up for a 357/38sp carbine for HAD as I do get asked to shoot the odd sheep and an experience with a very angry cow with two broken legs made me want a bit of distance! If you're going to shoot any livestock make sure you know where to shoot them, the classic X from ear to eye is a good start but as Rake found out their heads can be very hard! If you're unsure and need to shoot livestock in an emergency a shotgun is a safer bet than a free bullet because at close range you've got a .729 bullet which knocks even OF's 600 into a cocked hat and doesn't cost £20 a bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Benthejockey said: 22 is more than adequate for sheep. 410 will kill horses and most cows. Pigs are trickier because the kill zone on a pigs head is relatively small and they're harder to get to stand still - they're clever and know when theres something up. Bulls or anything a bit angry you want 12g and a really angry bovine wants something like a 357 that you can shoot it from across the shed with! I'm saving up for a 357/38sp carbine for HAD as I do get asked to shoot the odd sheep and an experience with a very angry cow with two broken legs made me want a bit of distance! If you're going to shoot any livestock make sure you know where to shoot them, the classic X from ear to eye is a good start but as Rake found out their heads can be very hard! If you're unsure and need to shoot livestock in an emergency a shotgun is a safer bet than a free bullet because at close range you've got a .729 bullet which knocks even OF's 600 into a cocked hat and doesn't cost £20 a bang. A 38/357 carbine is a great tool for the job, I don't leave home without mine 😁 And I would ad for any one that needs to put down livestock in an emergency have a read of the Humane Slaughter Association publications online. Edited June 28, 2019 by bluesj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, bluesj said: A 38/357 carbine is a great tool for the job, I don't leave home without mine 😁 I think we may have had this conversation a while ago 😂 I'm saving for a marlin 1894 CSBL but they're not cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Benthejockey said: I think we may have had this conversation a while ago 😂 I'm saving for a marlin 1894 CSBL but they're not cheap! That the one with the treaded barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, bluesj said: That the one with the treaded barrel? I think they do do a threaded model but it sort of defeats the object of the 16 inch barrel if you stick a big long suppressor on it. It comes with iron sights and a rail which I'd stick a little scope on to use in the woods for the odd fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 In the army they shoot horses with a .32 Webley pistol. Its probably about 70 years old. Every time the horses go out onto the road for what ever reason the senior NCO has one in his pocket just in case one of the horses gets injured, and he is trained how to use it Its the same Webley pistol they used to issue to police in London up to about the 1950s but the .32 Webley is not really any more powerful than a .22, its all about how and where the shot is delivered but the horse never even twitches. Bang and its flat, just a shudder as the muscles let go and its over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Benthejockey said: I think they do do a threaded model but it sort of defeats the object of the 16 inch barrel if you stick a big long suppressor on it. It comes with iron sights and a rail which I'd stick a little scope on to use in the woods for the odd fox. Had a play with a treaded one today, must say over all very nice but didn't like the synthetic stock. the mod on it wasn't much bigger than a rimfire mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, bluesj said: Had a play with a treaded one today, must say over all very nice but didn't like the synthetic stock. the mod on it wasn't much bigger than a rimfire mod. I think that's the CST model. The csbl has a laminate stock. Livens have the marlin 1895 BLACK on preorder but that's only available in 3030 or 45-70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 In this context, a friend asked for dispatch of cage caught foxes, feral cats, squirrels. mink and rats plus injured foxes, deer, badgers and livestock inc pets (the standard wording for dispatch apparently) the question came back are you a licenced slaughter man? Whats a licenced slaughter man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Vince Green said: In this context, a friend asked for dispatch of cage caught foxes, feral cats, squirrels. mink and rats plus injured foxes, deer, badgers and livestock inc pets (the standard wording for dispatch apparently) the question came back are you a licenced slaughter man? Whats a licenced slaughter man? A licensed slaughter man is just that you have a a license to slaughter animals which I believe is called a WATOK - Welfare of Animals at Time Of Killing license and CoC certificate of competency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Vince Green said: eIn this context, a friend asked for dispatch of cage caught foxes, feral cats, squirrels. mink and rats plus injured foxes, deer, badgers and livestock inc pets (the standard wording for dispatch apparently) the question came back are you a licenced slaughter man? Whats a licenced slaughter man? 13 minutes ago, Benthejockey said: A licensed slaughter man is just that you have a a license to slaughter animals which I believe is called a WATOK - Welfare of Animals at Time Of Killing license and CoC certificate of competency. And not really relevant to humane dispatch its more to do with food production Edited June 28, 2019 by bluesj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 hours ago, The Mighty Prawn said: Try a .308 with a rusty barrel Any idea where I can get one 😂😂 17 minutes ago, bluesj said: And not really relevant to humane dispatch its more to do with food production These won’t be going into food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 18 hours ago, Vince Green said: In the army they shoot horses with a .32 Webley pistol. Its probably about 70 years old. Every time the horses go out onto the road for what ever reason the senior NCO has one in his pocket just in case one of the horses gets injured, and he is trained how to use it Its the same Webley pistol they used to issue to police in London up to about the 1950s but the .32 Webley is not really any more powerful than a .22, its all about how and where the shot is delivered but the horse never even twitches. Bang and its flat, just a shudder as the muscles let go and its over. Our knackerman at work uses one of the old MOD horse dispatch pistols, single shot break barrel jobby. He usually shoots a horse a week, sometimes more and hasn't had a runner yet.....touch wood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, kennett said: Our knackerman at work uses one of the old MOD horse dispatch pistols, single shot break barrel jobby. He usually shoots a horse a week, sometimes more and hasn't had a runner yet.....touch wood! You dont want to miss when you're shooting a horse because a second chance wont be forthcoming. And if they opt for the fight reflex then a horse is a very nasty piece of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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