wymberley Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Step son is away a lot and needs something sub 12 ftlb that is stand alone, on the cheap side, capable of killing pigeon at 25 yards max and is moderated. For infrequent garden use to be grabbed and used when necessary. Is there such a thing? Thoughts, please. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B391 Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Mossberg 410 pump lovely little light gun and also fun on the clay gound as well https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns-silenced/mossberg/pump-action/410-gauge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, B391 said: Mossberg 410 pump lovely little light gun and also fun on the clay gound as well https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns-silenced/mossberg/pump-action/410-gauge Can you show us all a sub 12 ft lb .410. How cheap is cheap as nearly all the cheap Chinese imports will manage a pigeon at 25 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Yep, my thoughts exactly on both points. Had a fiddle with one of the Chinese offerings - wildly inaccurate until I discovered the metal was loose on the wood. When sorted it wasn't half bad but can't now remember the make. Can these break- barrel jobbies be moderated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Yes either come screw cut or a slip on. Silencing is a waste of time as the mechanical noise is louder than the pellet and air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Cheap as chips Hatsan 55 or 65. Neighbour has one in 22 ( one is 177 the other identical but 22) and it's good to 25 yards.I had the striker and it was surprisingly accurate once used to the single trigger. Can't easily silence the striker. I bet most gun shops have one knocking about as a part x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Bsa lightening I got one sh .for £110 Awesome gun .has a mod and is very accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 You get quite a lot of aiguns advertised in freeads app and given a little time something 2nd hand suitable will appear such as BSA lightning, gamo, crosman etc a lot of which are bought on a whim and then resold some months later. As above, Hatsans, Kral etc do inexpensive guns new at reasonable prices for the distance you are looking to hunt and group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Thanks, All, going to suggest that he tries to find a used Lightning either springer or GR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 I'd say avoid the gasram version 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz25 Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Any of the low end Gamo's are good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Chaz25 said: Any of the low end Gamo's are good Are not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 This. https://www.pellpax.co.uk/airguns/air-rifles/spring-powered-air-rifles/remington-express-synthetic-air-rifle-177/3166 Gunslip, mounts, scope all for £149.99. Full power under the UK legal limit. No license required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Whitebridges said: This. https://www.pellpax.co.uk/airguns/air-rifles/spring-powered-air-rifles/remington-express-synthetic-air-rifle-177/3166 Gunslip, mounts, scope all for £149.99. Full power under the UK legal limit. No license required. Tell you what, I have the xp version. Was utter pants for ages, took hundreds of pellets to bed the barrel in, and vibrated a bit, with a fair bit of dieseling. Stripped it, basic tinbum tune kit, bit of wet and dry and it's now one of my favourite airguns. If I can't be ***** pumping the pcps up, I have no issues when I grab that gun. Didnt want to mention it as imho it needs a tiny bit of work to get great. Other thing is the lop is massive on it, suits a lanky *** like me Edited July 28, 2019 by strimmer_13 My 3 babes 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 Most entry level springers should be good for the job. I had a Hatsan 65 and it was actually pretty good. I think the 55 is .177 and the 65 is .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) What Strimmer said, I've the XP in .22 @strimmer_13 do you have the setback trigger in yours? £25 from Lyn Lewington and polish the sears makes it much lighter, crisper and you don't need digits like ET. Edited July 29, 2019 by Mr.C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 18 hours ago, strimmer_13 said: Tell you what, I have the xp version. Was utter pants for ages, took hundreds of pellets to bed the barrel in, and vibrated a bit, with a fair bit of dieseling. Stripped it, basic tinbum tune kit, bit of wet and dry and it's now one of my favourite airguns. If I can't be ***** pumping the pcps up, I have no issues when I grab that gun. Didnt want to mention it as imho it needs a tiny bit of work to get great. Other thing is the lop is massive on it, suits a lanky *** like me They are full of grease. It's in the barrel, cylinder, washers and trigger. Needs a bit of due care and attention and can then really match up. A friend told me he bought his for £129. Billy bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr.C said: What Strimmer said, I've the XP in .22 @strimmer_13 do you have the setback trigger in yours? £25 from Lyn Lewington and polish the sears makes it much lighter, crisper and you don't need digits like ET. No mate but now you've mentioned it I will get it. 10 minutes ago, Whitebridges said: They are full of grease. It's in the barrel, cylinder, washers and trigger. Needs a bit of due care and attention and can then really match up. A friend told me he bought his for £129. Billy bargain. Got mine in mole valley on sale when they were getting rid. Think I paid 125, and sold the carpy 4x32 scope on the bay for 20 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 hello, i think those not so of a young age started with old BSA/Webley spring air rifles, a bit of tinkering and new leather piston washer was the norm, since then i have gone through many springers mostly foreign, some good most bad but can be fettled and a tune kit fitted makes a reasonable job, cheap chinese or ? plus cost of kit plus fitting and time, my advice now go straight on and buy a HW 99 S around £200 new, you maybe lucky a find a decent second hand with scope and silencer, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i think those not so of a young age started with old BSA/Webley spring air rifles, a bit of tinkering and new leather piston washer was the norm, since then i have gone through many springers mostly foreign, some good most bad but can be fettled and a tune kit fitted makes a reasonable job, cheap chinese or ? plus cost of kit plus fitting and time, my advice now go straight on and buy a HW 99 S around £200 new, you maybe lucky a find a decent second hand with scope and silencer, good luck In my case it was a Diana Model 1. Have emailed him a couple of options - thanks, All, - one a Lightning on his (work) doorstep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, wymberley said: In my case it was a Diana Model 1. Have emailed him a couple of options - thanks, All, - one a Lightning on his (work) doorstep. hello, so long ago i cannot remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, so long ago i cannot remember The Diana you would remember. The only thing that took longer than it did to load was for the pellet to arrive at the target. Was taught to shoot by counting the heads of wasps floating in a water-filled jam jar with some jam wiped around the rim in relation to the number of pellets fired at a distance of 10 yards. There was a heavy financial penalty for a broken jar and a head counted as a farthing. When I finally broke even, Father said OK, now you can shoot and bought me a Meteor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbly bob 2 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 On 27/07/2019 at 20:21, wymberley said: Step son is away a lot and needs something sub 12 ftlb that is stand alone, on the cheap side, capable of killing pigeon at 25 yards max and is moderated. For infrequent garden use to be grabbed and used when necessary. Is there such a thing? Thoughts, please. Many thanks. My thoughts are: on what legal basis is your stepson going to be shooting pigeons in his garden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Did he say he was going to shoot pigeons in his garden? Er ! No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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