toontastic Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 I have recently seen an interview with a purchaser for care homes. She said she used to buy aprons from a UK company at £27 a box, but recently she tried to place a new order and was quoted £81 a box. The price had trebled in just 4 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirokuMK70 Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 Ah, good old fashioned profiteering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, MirokuMK70 said: Ah, good old fashioned profiteering... Maybe but who is doing it? The end supplier or somebody earlier in the supply chain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Nuke said: Maybe but who is doing it? The end supplier or somebody earlier in the supply chain? Its certainly something worth investigating once things settle down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 9 hours ago, toontastic said: I have recently seen an interview with a purchaser for care homes. She said she used to buy aprons from a UK company at £27 a box, but recently she tried to place a new order and was quoted £81 a box. The price had trebled in just 4 weeks. When you think how much these care homes charge its still small change for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: When you think how much these care homes charge its still small change for them Indeed. Particularly when one considers that the ONS state that care homes profit margins are around 3% higher than other types of service providers and 5% higher than manufacturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 17 hours ago, grrclark said: Just a touch. Do you feel miserable in having to work for someone? Feels a bit like some projection going on. Your post just shows how utterly clueless you are, the only person with projection issues is you, as if I care what some person on the internet thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Vince Green said: When you think how much these care homes charge its still small change for them I'd like to know where all the money goes my partner gets minimum wage for looking after covid infected dementia patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted April 23, 2020 Report Share Posted April 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, toontastic said: I'd like to know where all the money goes my partner gets minimum wage for looking after covid infected dementia patients. I know South Africans who invest in UK care homes and people locally who do the same, I would not describe them as dripping in diamonds but they are, or at least were, doing very very well for themselves. Always been a good way to investment any lump sums of cash you may save or acquire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 13 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Your post just shows how utterly clueless you are, the only person with projection issues is you, as if I care what some person on the internet thinks. You do make me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, grrclark said: You do make me laugh. Ditto 😘😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) On 21/04/2020 at 04:29, Dave-G said: You couldn't make this up - I'd imagine possibly due to some stupid policy about not being made by a preferred NHS supplier who likely pay huge backhanders to become one. Investigations need to be made then a few heads must roll in high places if corruption is found. Or maybe the firms want ransom money for them, either way it needs sorting out PDQ. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/20/exclusivemillions-pieces-ppe-shipped-britain-europe-despite/ hello, have you seen the latest news report Dave, now we do not want the million PPE gowns from Turkey, stating not meeting our safety standards, SO WHAT ARE THE HOSPITAL STAFF USING IN TURKEY ????? Edited May 7, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, have you seen the latest news report Dave, now we do not want the million PPE gowns from Turkey, stating not meeting our safety standards, SO WHAT ARE THE HOSPITAL STAFF USING IN TURKEY ????? No idea what they are using in the hospitals in turkey, but just because the gowns came from Turkey that is no guarantee the Turkish hospitals use the gowns . If they are not suitable, They are not suitable. Could be any number of reasons. Is it quality Is it specs. We need to wait find out why they are not suitable, then we can drawc real conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, lancer425 said: No idea what they are using in the hospitals in turkey, but just because the gowns came from Turkey that is no guarantee the Turkish hospitals use the gowns . If they are not suitable, They are not suitable. Could be any number of reasons. Is it quality Is it specs. We need to wait find out why they are not suitable, then we can drawc real conclusions. I wonder if the manufacturer of these unusable gowns will repay the cost og the UK Government sending the RAF to collect them in the clammer to get stuff to the "Front Line"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, lancer425 said: No idea what they are using in the hospitals in turkey, but just because the gowns came from Turkey that is no guarantee the Turkish hospitals use the gowns . If they are not suitable, They are not suitable. Could be any number of reasons. Is it quality Is it specs. We need to wait find out why they are not suitable, then we can drawc real conclusions. hello, that would be interesting to know lancer ?? saying that what about all the home made ( not factory) PPE that is being used like Lins face masks/ Connors head masks,/ Aprons made in 1000s by people with sewing machines at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, that would be interesting to know lancer ?? saying that what about all the home made ( not factory) PPE that is being used like Lins face masks/ Connors head masks,/ Aprons made in 1000s by people with sewing machines at home I suspect a lot, but not all, of the stuff that is being made and given the NHS goes straight in the bin. But it keeps the masses from thinking they are doing their bit. One of the NHS trusts near me asked for people to stop donating things as they didn’t know what to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 No idea we will get to know soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, that would be interesting to know lancer ?? saying that what about all the home made ( not factory) PPE that is being used like Lins face masks/ Connors head masks,/ Aprons made in 1000s by people with sewing machines at home I'm sure the people in care homes or other places are perfectly happy and appreciative of the items they have been given, but the NHS will have to use things of a certain spec, unless times are truly desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringDon Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 I’m sure people sincerely want to help but how many on here would use ppe professionally that’s been knocked up at home? If I lose my chainsaw clothing, I’ll wait till I can buy some more not get an old lady to knit me some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mice! said: I'm sure the people in care homes or other places are perfectly happy and appreciative of the items they have been given, but the NHS will have to use things of a certain spec, unless times are truly desperate. hello, are these not desperate times, ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, are these not desperate times, ? If they are rejecting the ppe then no there not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mice! said: If they are rejecting the ppe then no there not. But its got to be suitable. If its not then its not. Its PPE not clothing etc that looks like real PPE. Personal protection equipment that is not protecting people for whatever reason is just Equipment. Might be great for other hospital jobs, but not PPE in CVD19 Applications. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Mice! said: I'm sure the people in care homes or other places are perfectly happy and appreciative of the items they have been given, but the NHS will have to use things of a certain spec, unless times are truly desperate. So what you are saying is care home staff are second class so second class equipment is good enough for them but it's not good enough for real carers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, toontastic said: So what you are saying is care home staff are second class so second class equipment is good enough for them but it's not good enough for real carers. Calm down, the PPE isn't up to nhs spec but I've seen care homes on the news taking donations of equipment, are you telling me they wouldn't use these gowns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted May 7, 2020 Report Share Posted May 7, 2020 But why should it be deemed suitable for care homes because it's not up to NHS spec. A dementia nurse/carer looking after a patient with covid needs PPE just as much as a NHS nurse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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