Some shocking stats

[REDINGTON]

certain elements of the human race would benefit from a "cull"  opinions differ as to which particular parts, this virus and those before and after it has no preference. 

but as with almost everything else,mankind appears to contribute as much as possible in the spreading of it to all corners of the planet.

 

[Rewulf]

5 minutes ago, REDINGTON said:

certain elements of the human race would benefit from a "cull"  opinions differ as to which particular parts, this virus and those before and after it has no preference. 

but as with almost everything else,mankind appears to contribute as much as possible in the spreading of it to all corners of the planet.

 

So in your opinion Sir, which parts of the human race would benefit from this 'cull' ?

[JohnfromUK]

5 minutes ago, REDINGTON said:

as to which particular parts, this virus and those before and after it has no preference. 

Actually, perhaps not surprisingly, it comes harder to the older, the overweight and those with existing medical conditions.  However, less expected is that it seems worse in other parts of the community such as BAME, but some groups (e.g. Chinese) seem to be less vulnerable.

[clangerman]

5 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

So in your opinion Sir, which parts of the human race would benefit from this 'cull' ?

go for it red i’m bored lol 

[REDINGTON]

4 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

So in your opinion Sir, which parts of the human race would benefit from this 'cull' ?

I believe the trick to ultimate survival is to remain absent from everyone else's list.

[clangerman]

ah come on the least we could do is start with the anti nutters 

[JohnfromUK]

A figure I found surprising was that 18.1 Million people entered the UK in the 3 months prior to lockdown.  At over a quarter of the UK population, I find that a staggeringly large number.  A tiny fraction were quarantined.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/05/just-273-people-arriving-in-uk-in-run-up-to-lockdown-quarantined

[REDINGTON]

4 minutes ago, clangerman said:

ah come on the least we could do is start with the anti nutters 

herein we come to the first choice, do we include the dear little old lady in a city suburb who wishes to  leave her entire estate to wild justice or some similar outfit?  in the same group as a hired thug beating a huntsman or follower with a tyre iron.  both wish to end hunting, but with differing reasons and ways to achieve it.

 

[clangerman]

it’s not the view it’s the actions the old dear is hardly going to have a set to with you or i hope not lol 

[REDINGTON]

7 minutes ago, clangerman said:

it’s not the view it’s the actions the old dear is hardly going to have a set to with you or i hope not lol 

but it could be said her fortune will finance many thugs.

so as with most things,more choices, do you cut off the funding, or just add a few more hapless followers to replace those hospitalised or put off at the very least by the paid thugs.

[Vince Green]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Germany is not at the back end of nowhere under 7,000 deaths ?  UK 30,000 deaths ?

German people do as they are told, when they are told by their government to do something they only have to be told once. They can appear a bit moronic at times but when something like this happens they really come into their own.

They don't have the level of interchange that we do between New York or China generally speaking. 

[blackbird]

54 minutes ago, REDINGTON said:

certain elements of the human race would benefit from a "cull"  opinions differ as to which particular parts, this virus and those before and after it has no preference. 

but as with almost everything else,mankind appears to contribute as much as possible in the spreading of it to all corners of the planet.

 

There is no need for any “cull” the human race just has to stop breading like rabbits our own Boris is a fine example by knocking out six kids.

[REDINGTON]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

There is no need for any “cull” the human race just has to stop breading like rabbits our own Boris is a fine example by knocking out six kids.

 

As previously  said, there are many variations of how the same outcome should be approached.

 

[Mungler]

Every NZ comparison I’ve seen is BS. 

NZ with it population of 5m (less than Scotland) and land mass 10% bigger than the whole UK.

And their PM taking a 15% pay cut and the media crowing that Borrow should do likewise - their PM earns £100k more than Boris for ‘managing’ a country with about 65 million less people in it. 
 

As for the European stats - anyone who believes them is frankly a moron and that’s not even getting on the subject of measuring like with like and the easy example is Italy not recording deaths in care homes. 
 

We are where we are and we’re on our own; take neither comfort nor annoyance from what you think you are seeing elsewhere.

[Raja Clavata]

Are you suggesting Boris represents good VFM?

Anyway I agree - would much rather be discussing the future and what the new norm is gonna look like - I reckon it'll all work out fine and dandy in the big scheme of things, eventually...

[clangerman]

the numbers mean nothing because if we don’t get on top of it the rest of the world will simply cut us of until the number dying does drop no way are they going to put up with us handing out the virus when they are clear 

[Mungler]

So, here’s an interesting one; in March 2020 there were 5,777 more deaths registered in England and Wales than in 2019.

Obviously no one wants to be one of the 5,777 (and the stats show that of that number 80% plus were over 75 years of age) but that’s still not a big number / difference given that we’ve got a growing population (between 65m and 70m depending on who you ask).

I can’t work out the truth of any of it. The only person I know to have had it is my retired plumber (70 years of age, ex smoker, over weight and prior diagnosed with measo) and he went into Broomfield hospital for O2 treatment and was out in 10 days.

Is it a pant pooping pandemic or something like nasty flu which the quacks just don’t properly understand?

 

Edit and this appears to me to be the kicker :-

Highest weekly deaths recorded in England Wales was the week ending April 17 when there were 22,351 registered.

Prior, it was 19,995 people in the last week of 1999, but the country has at least 5m (If not 10m) more people in it since 1999.

 

 

Edited May 6, 2020 by Mungler

[toontastic]

2 hours ago, Vince Green said:

German people do as they are told, when they are told by their government to do something they only have to be told once. They can appear a bit moronic at times but when something like this happens they really come into their own.

They don't have the level of interchange that we do between New York or China generally speaking. 

Germany only record death from covid when there are no other health issues. According to a report from Bonn University the German figure could be up to 10 times the quoted figure.

 

Edited May 6, 2020 by toontastic

[Raja Clavata]

I really don't get why we continue to put Germans on a pedestal and feed their tendency to assume a position of superiority over the rest of us. History tells us that's a bad move.

[toontastic]

31 minutes ago, Mungler said:

So, here’s an interesting one; in March 2020 there were 5,777 more deaths registered in England and Wales than in 2019.

Obviously no one wants to be one of the 5,777 (and the stats show that of that number 80% plus were over 75 years of age) but that’s still not a big number / difference given that we’ve got a growing population (between 65m and 70m depending on who you ask).

I can’t work out the truth of any of it. The only person I know to have had it is my retired plumber (70 years of age, ex smoker, over weight and prior diagnosed with measo) and he went into Broomfield hospital for O2 treatment and was out in 10 days.

Is it a pant pooping pandemic or something like nasty flu which the quacks just don’t properly understand?

 

Edit and this appears to me to be the kicker :-

Highest weekly deaths recorded in England Wales was the week ending April 17 when there were 22,351 registered.

Prior, it was 19,995 people in the last week of 1999, but the country has at least 5m (If not 10m) more people in it since 1999.

 

 

Watching sky news this morning they were discussing an increase in care home deaths of 16,000 over the same period last year. But the interesting thing was that only about half of them tested positive for Corona. So even without Corona there would still be a massive spike in care home deaths. 

[Mungler]

 

Adjusted for population. Strange how the media focus on making us believe the absolute worst of everything.

French don’t record deaths at home, Spanish don’t record deaths at all properly anywhere / anyhow, Italians don’t record deaths in care homes and the Germans don’t record the deaths they don’t want to. So why are our media intent on trying to measure us against this lot to paint a failure on the part of the UK?

Answers on a post card.

Edited May 6, 2020 by Mungler

[Mice!]

22 minutes ago, Mungler said:

So why are our media intent on trying to measure us against this lot to paint a failure on the part of the UK?

Answers on a post card.

Because they want us to look like we are doing a bad job? Can't beat having a go at government. 

[Retsdon]

Some interesting graphs on this page.

https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

But another interesting that asks some hard questions about how (in the UK anyway) the figures above are arrived at. Again, it seems like the system has gone off the rails. 

https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/05/covid-19-is-a-statistical-nonsense/

Edited May 6, 2020 by Retsdon

[mel b3]

9 hours ago, Mungler said:

 

Everyone has a different way of looking at a situation / problem and which is forged by their background and own experiences. If you run a business you look at everything and ask ‘who is paying for that?’ I’m asking that question a lot these days and I’m frightening myself.

We are no where near at the end of this and we still have no real concept of the consequences. 

for me , this is it .

during my lifetime , ive been so skint that i hadnt got enough money for my next meal  , ive also stood looking at my late wife laying in a coffin.     being flat broke again holds no fear for me , but looking at my wife or one of my  children in a coffin scares the xxxx out of me.

the financial side of things holds little or no fear for me  , yes im lucky and still have work , and enough savings to live on , but even if those were taken away(and they very probably will be in the very near future) , i could still feed us , and wed still have a roof over our heads , and at the end of the day , thats all that matters , to me.

none of us know where covid 19 will take us , for all we know it could burn itself out in a couple of months , or ,  it could kill millions of us before we become immune , or a vaccine is found , but too many people are worrying about the wrong things . worry about survival for now , and worry about the money later.

[Old farrier]

13 minutes ago, mel b3 said:

for me , this is it .

during my lifetime , ive been so skint that i hadnt got enough money for my next meal  , ive also stood looking at my late wife laying in a coffin.     being flat broke again holds no fear for me , but looking at my wife or one of my  children in a coffin scares the xxxx out of me.

the financial side of things holds little or no fear for me  , yes im lucky and still have work , and enough savings to live on , but even if those were taken away(and they very probably will be in the very near future) , i could still feed us , and wed still have a roof over our heads , and at the end of the day , thats all that matters , to me.

none of us know where covid 19 will take us , for all we know it could burn itself out in a couple of months , or ,  it could kill millions of us before we become immune , or a vaccine is found , but too many people are worrying about the wrong things . worry about survival for now , and worry about the money later.

Well said 

iv worn both of the T-shirts 

and certainly don’t want to be looking at anymore family in coffins