TRINITY Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Accepted , I hate them aswell , I hate the point scoring , I belive it will bring unrest here people seeing England been allowed more freedom at a safe distance .. I find it very strange seening her on her podium not asking for her freedom . Stay safe All three of these no mark purported leaders of their 'little countries' will have more or less had a very good idea what was to be announced. I would place a very hefty bet that if they had warning that boris was going to continue with the lockdown then yesterday their advice would have been to the contrary . All three would have announced significant easing measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 It might be worth those interested in these Updates, to watch Parliament Tv Boris Johnson delivering a statement. "On news channel list " it is on at 3,30PM today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, johnphilip said: Accepted , I hate them aswell , I hate the point scoring , I belive it will bring unrest here people seeing England been allowed more freedom at a safe distance .. I find it very strange seening her on her podium not asking for her freedom . Stay safe I asked in a different thread a few weeks ago if NS says one thing and BJ says another who will the Scots listen too? Who holds the power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Can't beat having mixed signals, the police are on a hiding to nothing. You just know people will flock to the popular places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Well Boris said the fines have been increased! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnphilip Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, Mice! said: I asked in a different thread a few weeks ago if NS says one thing and BJ says another who will the Scots listen too? Who holds the power? A good question , but it should not be political. And I belive strongly that's what it is . Will be interesting to see what happens in the next few days . To see what other parties up here, put the pressure on her . It should be a united decision not a deviding one . Time will tell . She is stubborn . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, AVB said: You are putting too much emphasis on being paid. One definition of employed is 'to keep occupied'. If you have been requested to perform pest control, and hence is critical, then I believe you are fulfilling the criteria. I understand your comment, and did consider this. However, in the context of the bulletin it is not "occupied".The remainder of the bulletin is a clear warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, johnphilip said: A good question , but it should not be political. And I belive strongly that's what it is . Will be interesting to see what happens in the next few days . To see what other parties up here, put the pressure on her . It should be a united decision not a deviding one . Time will tell . She is stubborn . United is not a word recognised by nichola, Scotland is all about her and power. Division is her policy and hatred is her policy and always will be because she believes that will deliver what she craves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, johnphilip said: A good question , but it should not be political. And I belive strongly that's what it is . Will be interesting to see what happens in the next few days . To see what other parties up here, put the pressure on her . It should be a united decision not a deviding one . Time will tell . She is stubborn . She is something else besides stubborn , but its not possible to say on here. She is loosing the edge she seemed to get with the results after the election. Not seen any polls but imagine she is loosing popularity. I do not think points scoring at this time, will make friends and influence people, that goes for sturgeon or starmer . Edited May 11, 2020 by lancer425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, lancer425 said: It might be worth those interested in these Updates, to watch Parliament Tv Boris Johnson delivering a statement. "On news channel list " it is on at 3,30PM today. I am optimistic we will get some good news. CPSA website today also seems to suggest a positive outcome 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, turbo33 said: I understand your comment, and did consider this. However, in the context of the bulletin it is not "occupied".The remainder of the bulletin is a clear warning. Yes it is just simply that - a threat. They don't want you shooting, but, considering the stance taken by other forces and the woolliness of their advice, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on if it went to court. This is where BASC have let us down badly. They should be robustly challenging forces like yours. I won't be renewing my BASC membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, Mice! said: I asked in a different thread a few weeks ago if NS says one thing and BJ says another who will the Scots listen too? Who holds the power? It`s been interesting to watch people here in Scotland over the past 2-3 weeks. Most have been adhereing to the rules but cracks are appearing, I have seen several neighbours openly disregarding the rules, children stopping at Grannies bungalow, friends coming round and into homes. Perhaps it will get worse with the differences and people will say "They can do it there why can`t I?" It`ll be nice to get a bit more normality into my life, but I want to be safe and I don`t want to pass it on neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, johnphilip said: good question , but it should not be political. And I belive strongly that's what it is . Its absolutely political, same with going straight to Starmer yesterday after Boris gave his speech. It would be nice if everyone was singing from the same sheet but they rarely are. It would also be interesting if Boris told NS to tow the line, but I'm sure that would be done behind closed doors 2 minutes ago, henry d said: It`ll be nice to get a bit more normality into my life, but I want to be safe and I don`t want to pass it on neither. The cracks are everywhere, it's the lack of definite rules that's causing it, and yesterday's announcement didn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TRINITY said: I am optimistic we will get some good news. CPSA website today also seems to suggest a positive outcome 🤞 I think we will be back on, Need to go foxing, and some crows to dissolve. But not noticed much pigeon activity today. It was cool today first thing, i acctualy used my new to me freelander 2 first time today i had it about 5 week just sat on drive from being delivered. Think we are not supposed to use cars to travel to exercise but , after last nights update i thought i would risk it, but wont do anything until wednesday now. . Edited May 11, 2020 by lancer425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, AVB said: Yes it is just simply that - a threat. They don't want you shooting, but, considering the stance taken by other forces and the woolliness of their advice, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on if it went to court. This is where BASC have let us down badly. They should be robustly challenging forces like yours. I won't be renewing my BASC membership. My BASC renewal is sitting on the desk. For many reasons along with yours, I am looking at alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Well looking at the 60 page document it says sports like angling and tennis can continue. Surely shooting in all its outdoors format could reasonably argued to fit into that bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, TRINITY said: Well looking at the 60 page document it says sports like angling and tennis can continue. Surely shooting in all its outdoors format could reasonably argued to fit into that bracket. Fishing and shooting are pretty much the same ish, tennis you need two people but you could play with family. I'm sure someone put basketball earlier which makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mice! said: Fishing and shooting are pretty much the same ish, tennis you need two people but you could play with family. I'm sure someone put basketball earlier which makes no sense. I imagine the reason 'shooting' wasn't mentioned is because it's not PC. I do respect how Boris has handled this but he's not going to rock any boats by using the S word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mice! said: Fishing and shooting are pretty much the same ish, tennis you need two people but you could play with family. I'm sure someone put basketball earlier which makes no sense. This is a classic example of us needing BASC to be on it and advise with speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: I imagine the reason 'shooting' wasn't mentioned is because it's not PC. I do respect how Boris has handled this but he's not going to rock any boats by using the S word. No need to mention S sitting by a lake or in a hide are near enough. I'd never expected individual sports to be mentioned, bigger fish to fry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mice! said: No need to mention S sitting by a lake or in a hide are near enough. I'd never expected individual sports to be mentioned, bigger fish to fry. No, me either. As others have said it should be done to common sense, but look where that got us 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just seen McDonalds have been give the green light to open up all its drive throughs in the UK if the government can do that. Why in Wales can’t we go shooting and fishing it looks like it’s coming down the welch government making there own rules on somethings but not on others we get more fresh air and exercise shooting and fishing then sitting in a car waiting to get for junk food. It makes my blood boil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, snow white said: Just seen McDonalds have been give the green light to open up all its drive throughs in the UK if the government can do that. Why in Wales can’t we go shooting and fishing it looks like it’s coming down the welch government making there own rules on somethings but not on others we get more fresh air and exercise shooting and fishing then sitting in a car waiting to get for junk food. It makes my blood boil. Common sense doesn't include getting fresh air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mightymariner Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 hours ago, AVB said: This is where BASC have let us down badly. They should be robustly challenging forces like yours. Agree, BASC should have been proactive on this from the start, instead of largely repeating the 'Stay home...' message. They should have been acting for members who, rightly or wrongly, wanted to know where they stood and if they could carry on with pest control. They could have used their staff to contact each police force and ask for a written statement, which could then be published for all members. Very straightforward, proactive and would have been appreciated by members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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