Vince Green Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 54 minutes ago, ditchman said: never mind that ...where do the outboards end up..........do they keep them as evidence or flog em off............. I've wondered that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, REDINGTON said: All depends whether you're on it or under it. If that was a distinct possibility it could deter some. However this is an extremely safe method. They are escorted close by to a waiting collection vessels . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, TRINITY said: I spend a lot of time in Spain. The amount of these illegals landing there is far greater than UK. They are already swapping certain regions and in some reported cases over 60% of the population and growing. They are also making life unbearable and Spanish are being forced out.. This is just the start in the channel, soon there will be thousands a day. The med is a greater expanse of water ,the channel is nothing to these illegals LIAR!!!!!! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, henry d said: LIAR!!!!!! 😉 Oh no I,m not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, andrewluke said: they are returned to france ready for the next delivery Did ditchys friend tell you that? Just now, TRINITY said: Oh no I,m not Only a liar would say that!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 No mate, I spend about 4 months of year(till recently) out there. I see it with my own eyes. Mainly the north African countries. 6 minutes ago, henry d said: Did ditchys friend tell you that? Only a liar would say that!!!!!! How often do you go over there to know otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, old'un said: Where do they get all these dingy and outboards, surely someone must know as they all look the same and new, is it possible to trace the source of the outboard engine? Or dingy? I would say ban the sales, but they are obviously being supplied out the back of a van, for a big pile of cash. 1 hour ago, Walker570 said: You just beat me to it. I would not put that past them one little bit. IF the occupants of these dingies will not get on a French vessel then tow them back to France and if they discharge anyhting at the boat or staff approaching then return fire as said with a couple of rounds through the dingy. They all seem to have nice new safety floatant vest on, so they ain't going to drown in a hurry. Once or twice for this to happen and there will be no further attempts the whole thing will fold. Like I said they could stop them easily but there would be uproar, I'd say start with rubber bullets and warn them to turn around or live ammunition will be used. But how long before women and children are being held up, the liberals would have a heart attack and I'm not sure the politicians giving the order would survive the witch hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Quote But they're not aiding illegal activity. They are aiding an illegal act - full stop. It is silly to say otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, TRINITY said: How often do you go over there to know otherwise I wouldnt waste your time, henry knows everything , a higher power tells him so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Scully said: Really? Are you sure about that? So Farage is lying then? Well, typical Farange he implies lots. Not sure what actually said. What I saw on that video was the French navy monitoring those little dinghies until the occupants were picked up by the British. There was nothing to suggest that the French were 'escorting' them' any more that Farange in his fishing boat was escorting the lot he motored alongside for most of the length of the clip. Rather, they monitor them in case the stupid **** end up in the drink. I'll say it again. Once these death traps are at sea the French have two choices. One, try and effect a capture of these people in the middle of the ocean which would certainly end up with people getting dronwned, or two, stand by and observe until the British turn up in case their boat gets swamped and they all end up in the middle of the Channel. Anyway, who picks them up? The British. And you can bet any money that the reason there's been an increase in this small craft gambit is not because the French navy keeps an eye on them until they reach the middle of the Channel. It's because the British navy comes and collects them! If it didn't there's none of them would make it ashore. So why blame the French? 29 minutes ago, Gordon R said: They are aiding an illegal act - full stop. How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Retsdon said: Well, typical Farange he implies lots. And theres the money shot 3 minutes ago, Retsdon said: I'll say it again. Once these death traps are at sea the French have two choices. One, try and effect a capture of these people in the middle of the ocean which would certainly end up with people getting dronwned, or two, stand by and observe until the British turn up in case their boat gets swamped and they all end up in the middle of the Channel. So according to that logic then, all they have to do is paddle out from a lilo from a beach in France, the French navy makes sure theyre ok until the British navy take over and see them safely to Blighty, if we all do our JOBS right, the poor unfortunates wont even get theyre feet wet ? Or we could get them over here, confiscate the boat, and once on dry land, give them a nice cup of tea, and take them straight back to the beach they left from. Fine the skipper of the boat to the max, and tell them to apply for asylum back in France like theyre supposed to. Once the word gets around that it isnt an open door policy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Well whatever is happening out there, one thing is for sure it's no more dangerous than catching a ferry. This illegal operation has been ongoing for a year or two and not one person has lost their life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDINGTON Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, TRINITY said: Well whatever is happening out there, one thing is for sure it's no more dangerous than catching a ferry. This illegal operation has been ongoing for a year or two and not one person has lost their life. "what happens at sea,, stays at sea" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosswaters Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, henry d said: LIAR!!!!!! 😉 That's disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 We could always take the French approach. I have heard wee Jimmy spout on many times how Scotland is an outward looking country who welcomes immigration and unlimited free movement. She is often critical about England policy of clamping down on such matters. Well let's give the little tart her wish , send em straight up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, TRINITY said: No mate, I spend about 4 months of year(till recently) out there. I see it with my own eyes. Mainly the north African countries. How often do you go over there to know otherwise Sorry, I was extracting urine, I agree wholehartedly, but others see the UK as the only target for refugees and migrants, we (used to) go very regularly too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 No problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, TRINITY said: We could always take the French approach. This approach you mean? https://www.thelocal.fr/20190111/hide-and-seek-french-police-comb-channel-beaches-in-search-of-migrants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQbk4LitexM https://www.thelocal.fr/20200102/crackdown-in-northern-france-prompts-surge-in-migrants-attempting-to-cross-english-channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, Retsdon said: How? Ask these nice gentlemen if its illegal or not. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8348113/Albanian-human-trafficking-gang-boss-jailed-nine-years.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Rewulf said: Ask these nice gentlemen if its illegal or not. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8348113/Albanian-human-trafficking-gang-boss-jailed-nine-years.html OK - tell me how the French are 'aiding' migration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Retsdon said: OK - tell me how the French are 'aiding' migration. Tell me how they are stopping it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Retsdon said: OK - tell me how the French are 'aiding' migration. If you are assisting a boat load of illegals , with , as in the link , a human trafficker piloting the boat, then you are assisting an offender in a crime, offender(s) in the FACT they are entering the UK illegally ? No ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Tell me how they are stopping it? Look at the links I posted. 1 minute ago, Rewulf said: If you are assisting a boat load of illegals , Assisting how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 To get an idea of the places in the world where there are major immigration issues you really only need to look at where UHCR have permanent offices, I'm not talking about the field missions in places of crisis. My ex worked in the one in Nairobi and currently Cairo, they have offices throughout North Africa and way beyond. It's kinda ironic that certain people think the UK is a special case, if it wasn't for the fact that we're an island we probably wouldn't have a clue what kind of numbers of illegals are turning up on a daily / weekly / monthly basis. Whilst I totally get the "shoot the dinghy" line of inner thought, I do find it a bit strange that privileged adults (owners of FACs in the UK) are willing to state in open fora that they think it's an acceptable policy to open fire on the boats. I don't know what the solution is but I know it's not that 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, TRINITY said: I spend a lot of time in Spain. The amount of these illegals landing there is far greater than UK. They are already swapping certain regions and in some reported cases over 60% of the population and growing. They are also making life unbearable and Spanish are being forced out.. This is just the start in the channel, soon there will be thousands a day. The med is a greater expanse of water ,the channel is nothing to these illegals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZl1eBU4Qx0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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