wishy735 Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Hope I am not going to regret this! Does anyone close to the Norfolk town of Diss fancy some rabbit shooting? On one of my perms(smallholding) we have a serious issue with rabbit numbers "knee deep"is how the owner describes it to me. I have shot over 60 in 3 visits and made no impact to numbers whatsoever. It is moderated rifle shooting only, in the evenings and when the nights draw in by lamp. There is livestock on the perm. If you fancy it, let me know. I will apologise in advance for not getting back to you straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Top offer, get ready for the inbox to get hammered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Nice offer ........"Hope I am not going to regret this!".... you’re the boss, you lay the rules down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Don’t do it mate I have lost permission in the past took somebody who I thought was a descent bloke only for him to take his mates behind my back and it caused trouble with farmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Old’un I layed the rules out all was ok for few months then is mates got in to him take us once and as you know that’s not how it stops they have to go again next think you have more body’s walking round than targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, snow white said: Old’un I layed the rules out all was ok for few months then is mates got in to him take us once and as you know that’s not how it stops they have to go again next think you have more body’s walking round than targets Yep it can happen, I always have chat with the land owner/farmer and tell him what I am doing and why, I make it clear that the only time they can be on the ground is when they are with me, I also make it clear that the farmer has been told about this arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 I should have said that I did speak to the farmer but they went late of a night on the other side of farm where nobody needed to go of a night. It only came to light when the farm seen someone he waved to them but they didn’t take any notice he thought it funny so went over to them and asked what they were doing and who gave them permission came out the lad I took was telling anybody to go. So I was pulled in to farm had a talk with farmer he said that I could carry on but I was that mad that my trust had been broken by someone the I thought was a mate I gave it up I only seen farmer couple months before this virus he asked me to go back i told will it’s 18 miles from where I live so next week lock down is lifted I will be there but never take anybody again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Ferret it in winter as well 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 as said dont do it, go on your own, and keep at them. in the end numbers will go down, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 hours ago, wishy735 said: I have shot over 60 in 3 visits and made no impact to numbers whatsoever From experience I'd say you have made quite a big impact. Keep at it and there will soon be a very noticeable difference in numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Yes, keep at them yourself. Initially you'll keep getting good numbers but the birth rate will drop off. I used to get 20 odd one night a week every week for months but that eventually became less than 20 a month and its now under 20 a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 I also would do as the other guys advised control the rabbits yourself if need be buy a Gatling gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Christopher Jones Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 Well I'm going to offer you a slightly different opinion than everyone else. If you want to invite someone to join you perhaps there's a young relative who you could take out and introduce to shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttab Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 Hi just to let you know ive been taking peaple out for a few years from pigeon watch . The only one ploblem i had once someone did not turn up.They are all pretty good people on here. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgy dave Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 a farmer let shooters on land adjoining mine to have ago on the rabbits they ended up coming over onto my land and pinching my pigeon decoys two bags of twelve i got them back by finding out where they live put a note in the door so his mrs found it and she brought them back within the hour , i bet she gave him a god talking to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 This is a great offer, don’t be put of by the comments you may make a new friend who offers you shooting on their ground in return. are not firearms owners supposed to be respectful, upstanding, honest, trustworthy people, Otherwise how do they get a certificate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 Ttab that during the day but the world changes when it gets dark the people you took during the day are not going to come back and shoot pigeons In the dark are they. But the people that you took shoot rabbits get talking to is mates let’s go and get a few rabbits the lad that lets me shoot them won’t mind if I go the next thing his mate tells somebody else and like I said earlier there are more shooters than rabbits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 2 hours ago, snow white said: Ttab that during the day but the world changes when it gets dark the people you took during the day are not going to come back and shoot pigeons In the dark are they. But the people that you took shoot rabbits get talking to is mates let’s go and get a few rabbits the lad that lets me shoot them won’t mind if I go the next thing his mate tells somebody else and like I said earlier there are more shooters than rabbits Ok lets ask you this, would the farmer your talking about let these lads go and shoot some rabbits/pigeons if they knocked on his door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 Definitely no he had trouble with some lads before I got introduced to him from a friend of his on a pheasant shoot we got on like a house on fire the rest is history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, snow white said: Definitely no he had trouble with some lads before I got introduced to him from a friend of his on a pheasant shoot we got on like a house on fire the rest is history. In that case why are they going when you have explained the situation to the farmer and them, if the farmer sees people or a vehicle he does not recognise parked in a gateway or field and you are not there, then he will tell them to get of the land. Don’t forget you have had a chat with the farmer and made him aware of the agreement with those lads, if they then try to come out with a cock and bull story about you saying its ok for them to go without you the farmer will know they are lying It sounds to me that you have not made it clear to the lads and farmer that if they are not with you they are basically trespassing (armed trespass) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 If you read what I said that I had trouble with them not still got trouble the farm seen them and I went round and seen the so called friend he doesn’t go there again. All this happened about 18 months ago I stick to myself so there can’t be anymore repercussions of last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 27, 2020 Report Share Posted June 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, snow white said: If you read what I said that I had trouble with them not still got trouble the farm seen them and I went round and seen the so called friend he doesn’t go there again. All this happened about 18 months ago I stick to myself so there can’t be anymore repercussions of last time Ok sorry if I miss understood you, it’s a shame you have had this experience with those lads, as I said in an earlier post it can happen, I’ve had it happen once in all the time I have been shooting. I have taken a few people from here and elsewhere to shoot a few pigeons/blacks, but I always make sure the farmer is aware of this temporary arrangement, and should he see them on the land without me being there they are trespassing, I’ve also made it clear to people I take that should they try to go behind my back I would report them for armed trespass, obviously you need to-be on good terms with your farmer and have his full backing for this arrangement to work because he is basically giving you the control of who can go and shoot on his land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 28, 2020 Report Share Posted June 28, 2020 i have taken people with me, but farmers say only come with me not on there own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted June 28, 2020 Report Share Posted June 28, 2020 Mossey what the farm says and what they do is a different thing they could go to farm and say you will be along in have hour or something like that then farm says carry on next thing the farm gives you a call saying them lads had a good day and you don’t now nothing about it. I will stop on my own thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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