flippermaj Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Is the L200 classed as a LGV and subject to 50mph speed limit on A roads? Are all pick ups in the same position? Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Not as far as I am aware of or I would have been pulled over by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KronKron Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 its my understsanding that all pickups are classed as N1 commercial vehical: 30mph in built up areas, 50mph on single 60mph on duel carriageways. Motorway speeds are the same as cars, unless towing a trailer, which lowers it to 60mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) I did a "specialist" driving course with work because lads kept "parking" them on their roof... The instructor knew of no changes in vehicle speeds... Hence I have always driven at normal speeds on roads in both my personal pickup and my works sign written one. From Parkers: https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/advice/speed-limits/ Speed limits for pickups Most pickups count as dual-purpose vehicles, and can be driven as quickly as a car. But do check their unladen weight before making any assumptions. For some high-spec pickups this will be greater than 2,040kg, making them the subject to the same rules as regular vans. Edited July 22, 2020 by Cawdor118 More info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 I think the dmax is a the only one that comes under the weight limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: I think the dmax is a the only one that comes under the weight limit. A Hilux Invincible is 1880kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Is that the single or double cab? 3 minutes ago, Cawdor118 said: A Hilux Invincible is 1880kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydredd Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 L200 is under the weight limit for the restriction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: Is that the single or double cab? Double mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, Cawdor118 said: Double mate Ok cheers 👍 I was looking at trucks a little while ago and was surprised at how many came in the higher weight category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Yes to see one being driven at less than 80 mph 😂.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 hours ago, KronKron said: its my understsanding that all pickups are classed as N1 commercial vehical: 30mph in built up areas, 50mph on single 60mph on duel carriageways. Motorway speeds are the same as cars, unless towing a trailer, which lowers it to 60mph. I believe this is correct and automatic speed cameras work from dual data base which references vehicle class , N1 being commercial and therefore lower speed limits. If the same vehicle was first registered as M1 private not N1 commercial then normal speed limits apply. Problem here is that normal road tax is applicable which may be higher than commercial @ £265. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 My 65 plate Warrior dual cab shows 1860 kg unladen revenue weight, vehicle category N1 in the V5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydredd Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) According to this site, only the Isuzu and L200 qualify as dual-purpose vehicles under the 2040kg weight restriction to be able to travel at the same speed limit as a car. https://www.vansdirect.co.uk/pickup-truck-speed-limits Edited July 23, 2020 by Mickeydredd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy69 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Im on my fourth Navara, 3 x 2.5 and noe 3.0 V6. I have always driven them assuming car speed limits and never had a fine. My daily commute involves a 50 mile round trip along a dual carriageway (non motorway) with average speed cameras for 30 miles of this. I set the cruise control at 78mph on the dash (GPS app on phone says this 73MPH) and never been fined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippermaj Posted July 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Hi Ross, have you been up and down the a9 under the average speed cameras at more than 50 ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 24/07/2020 at 20:34, flippermaj said: Hi Ross, have you been up and down the a9 under the average speed cameras at more than 50 ish? Yes , I'm up and down to Aviemore practicing clays a far bit and never received a fine. I go 70mph in the dual sections and 60mph in the single carriageway. The 3.0l hilux struggles to do over 70 anyway! 🤣. I'm the same in the works wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 It's who registers the vehicle in the first instance I believe. If you are a company VAT etc then twin cabs get N1 category and same rules as for vans Ie speed restricted on non-motorways ie 50mph single carriageway or 60mph dual carriageway. If you are an individual and not VAT reg. then you get M1 and can drive as a car. Speed cameras differentiate - some of my colleagues got caught when we had to get 1,000 hired twin cabs to the military a few years ago. Confusing to see one going passed you at 70+ when you are sure you cannot exceed 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 So from this thread it all depends who registered the pick up 1st? 2 exactly the same spec and model pick ups could have a different speed limit? Makes it more complicated buying a 2nd hand pick up Must admit I just thought it was purely down to the wieght wether Dpv or Lgv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I've had my l200 8 years and this is the first time I've heard of this. I drive it like a car. never had an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERCE Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 23/07/2020 at 11:33, Mickeydredd said: According to this site, only the Isuzu and L200 qualify as dual-purpose vehicles under the 2040kg weight restriction to be able to travel at the same speed limit as a car. https://www.vansdirect.co.uk/pickup-truck-speed-limits This is correct for all current model vehicles but you need to check for older models. I've got a mark 7 Hilux double cab & it's less than 2040kg kerb weight. i don't think that single cab pick ups are classed as dual-purpose & are subject to commercial vehicle speed limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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