david Paul Gag Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Evening Guys and Girls My first time posting on here in the past Ive been quite content reading up on some the excellent advice some of you guys come up with and that is the reason for my post. I am lucky in having access to a fairly large amount of arable land which I have been pigeon shooting over for several years now On standing and laid crops I can get reasonable bags. But come harvest time the acreage that I shoot over is cut all at the same time and I cannot get the blighters to come any where near me flagging may seem to be an option but I would need a frigging lot of flags Any one have any suggestions ?' Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, david Paul Gag said: Evening Guys and Girls My first time posting on here in the past Ive been quite content reading up on some the excellent advice some of you guys come up with and that is the reason for my post. I am lucky in having access to a fairly large amount of arable land which I have been pigeon shooting over for several years now On standing and laid crops I can get reasonable bags. But come harvest time the acreage that I shoot over is cut all at the same time and I cannot get the blighters to come any where near me flagging may seem to be an option but I would need a frigging lot of flags Any one have any suggestions ?' Dave Hello, what about some bangers on the perimeter fields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newkid Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, david Paul Gag said: Evening Guys and Girls My first time posting on here in the past Ive been quite content reading up on some the excellent advice some of you guys come up with and that is the reason for my post. I am lucky in having access to a fairly large amount of arable land which I have been pigeon shooting over for several years now On standing and laid crops I can get reasonable bags. But come harvest time the acreage that I shoot over is cut all at the same time and I cannot get the blighters to come any where near me flagging may seem to be an option but I would need a frigging lot of flags Any one have any suggestions ?' Dave What you need is me in the next field to scare them over your way 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 How about inviting friends or people(PW members) close to you to go on other fields to keep them moving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I used flags last week to keep the pige off their favourite corner near a road and houses .and encourage them into my field next door . It seemed to work as I saw no pige drop into that area all day . I use some old tent poles with roofing felt tied to it .I have just 4 and that worked for a 20 acre field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I have no real answer. Without spending some time there, it is hard to give advice. I would try to find the field that the pigeons really want. I am not keen on setting up when the odds aren't in my favour and the chances of a good bag are slim. I haven't set up much recently, preferring to bide my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 12 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, what about some bangers on the perimeter fields I've always been a bit cagey about using rope bangers on stubble when it's very dry as I would hate to see the field set alight. Not sure whether that would be possible. A field of wheat stubble was completely burnt out a couple of years ago near me, but no-one knew the exact cause. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Old Boggy said: I've always been a bit cagey about using rope bangers on stubble when it's very dry as I would hate to see the field set alight. Not sure whether that would be possible. A field of wheat stubble was completely burnt out a couple of years ago near me, but no-one knew the exact cause. OB Hello, understand what you mean, perhaps not on the actual stubble ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I have similar problems from time to time, I have made some scare crows from the wifes old clothes I have 3 made up, one in the middle of a field works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 14 hours ago, david Paul Gag said: Evening Guys and Girls My first time posting on here in the past Ive been quite content reading up on some the excellent advice some of you guys come up with and that is the reason for my post. I am lucky in having access to a fairly large amount of arable land which I have been pigeon shooting over for several years now On standing and laid crops I can get reasonable bags. But come harvest time the acreage that I shoot over is cut all at the same time and I cannot get the blighters to come any where near me flagging may seem to be an option but I would need a frigging lot of flags Any one have any suggestions ?' Dave its not the case of getting the pigeons to come anywhere near you, but you getting to where the pigeons want to-be, what numbers are you seeing on the field/s? Is there much traffic/flight lines? Do they want a particular field or place on that field, have you walked them off? Do they come back to the same place? there are so many ifs and buts and as motty said, its hard to give advice without seeing the situation. As pigeon shooters we require pigeons to-be doing certain things on a field before we can make a judgement on whether to setup and where, but sometimes even when things look favourable it can still all go pear shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 If you watch all your fields see which one they do favour, that's the first step. If you have a strong wind shoot a field down wind so your shots spook them off the other fields and they come into wind to your position. As previously stated use rope bangers to keep them on the move so they see your decoys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 they seem very picky this year despite both of us using dead birds yesterday they would not play ball after dinner time same behaviour watching a fresh stubble this morning good flight lines but they were getting up frequently and very wary not a good sign for the morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Paul Gag Posted September 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 Thanks for the response Guys Just to clarify I also use dead birds as decoys and some times two magnets before harvesting took eplace I was doing (without saying how many) quite good bags, A day or so after Harvest I went a drive round just to see where they were feeding and to be honest at about 2pm they were in most fields so I decided to shoot the next day set up about 1-30 pm dead birds and magnets pigeons all over the place was looking forwards to a good day.h Well total disaster they would not come any where near me I took the magnets in still no good - shot two! Since harvest Ive only shot there once a week. the following week I did setup in a different field they seem to want to be any where in the field but not near my dead bird decoys I,m thinking that there is too much food about for them after harvest? Is that possible? they seem to want to feed in their own little groups thinking of what you guys have recommended bangers / flags/etc Im just not sure but maybe give the flags a go may be just sit under a flightline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 Most pigeon shooters look forward to harvest time only to be disappointed, myself included. 'Too much choice' I hear everyone say and that may be the case but they have to feed somewhere. I spend more time looking at this time of the year than shooting. Yesterday I watched for well over an hour before deciding to set up on a flight line to a field in the distance. My reward was 24 picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 j d 's commonsence and logic is the way to go , you just cannot set up on a stubble field a press the start button , if only for the sake of a bit of patience and observation you get a reward as he said some of you may get lucky though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 I have to agree with Jdog as we spent 4 hours last week looking over 15000+ acres and another time We went round 20 fields For a total of 50 Odd picked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 I use long garden bamboo canes with a length of red and white hazard ribbon tied to each cane, the type you see on roadworks etc. Cheap , light, easy to carry and flap around nicely even in a light breeze, just place them where you want to keep them pigeons away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Paul Gag Posted September 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Morning Guys Thanks for the posts Guys thought provoking I now think I've been guilty of taking the birds for granted maybe to sloppy setting up maybe more attention to my hide strange as said before was doing well before harvest Will try again next year god permitting Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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