Lloyd90 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Hearing reports about people no longer having immunity after 4-5 months, the prospect of people being able to catch Covid-19 twice and the fact that it will then just keep going round and round over and over, is Covid-19 death going to become the new normal? It’s a bit bleak but if that does happen we would surely see a big reduction in population of the Earth. There would no longer be millions of old people sat in nursing homes taking 100+ medications a day being kept alive, surely most of them would succumb to the Covid. Illnesses like COPD and Asthma could become almost unheard of, because anyone who has them and then gets Covid would most likely not make it. Anyone born with any sort of serious health condition, compromised immune system or weakness most likely would not make it either. Blunt but quite simply survival of the (physically) fittest. What do you reckon? What a prospect to face puts you off paying into a pension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: What a prospect to face puts you off paying into a pension. All very convenient when you think about it really ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 It's a good thing really , the earth is vastly over populated and Mother Nature has stepped in to sort it . The planet needs a rest and this will help things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, FOXHUNTER1 said: It's a good thing really , the earth is vastly over populated and Mother Nature has stepped in to sort it . The planet needs a rest and this will help things. my death will NOT be a good thing thanks if this has come from mother nature i will eat my hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 When any population is out of control disease or starvation sorts it out. That is what is happening now survival of the fittest 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Hearing reports about people no longer having immunity after 4-5 months, the prospect of people being able to catch Covid-19 twice and the fact that it will then just keep going round and round over and over, is Covid-19 death going to become the new normal? It’s a bit bleak but if that does happen we would surely see a big reduction in population of the Earth. There would no longer be millions of old people sat in nursing homes taking 100+ medications a day being kept alive, surely most of them would succumb to the Covid. Illnesses like COPD and Asthma could become almost unheard of, because anyone who has them and then gets Covid would most likely not make it. Anyone born with any sort of serious health condition, compromised immune system or weakness most likely would not make it either. Blunt but quite simply survival of the (physically) fittest. What do you reckon? What a prospect to face puts you off paying into a pension. And then the beds in the old folks homes will be filled with young Covid victims trying to recover and the generations that are left with no one to teach them the skills they will need to survive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, FOXHUNTER1 said: It's a good thing really , the earth is vastly over populated and Mother Nature has stepped in to sort it . The planet needs a rest and this will help things. One the one hand, although I thought it a bit much to state that explicitly considering people losing loved ones etc. I do think that theory holds water though. Lots of complaint about over population, resources dwindling. A large scale global pandemic that has the potential of it keeps going round and round of killing off the elderly, those with serious underlying health conditions and basically having little effect on the young and healthy. It’s almost an economists perfect virus. 21 minutes ago, Old farrier said: And then the beds in the old folks homes will be filled with young Covid victims trying to recover and the generations that are left with no one to teach them the skills they will need to survive Perhaps ... or the young and fit will be fine and just get over it, whilst the young people with health conditions will die. Basicallt anyone historically considered a “burden to the state” or the “economically un-productive” seem to be the ones getting killed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Following your theory (survival of the fittest) on - perhaps we should close the NHS to the over 70s, and those with serious diseases (COPD, diabetes, disabled etc.) to allow the working young to prosper and pay less taxes? We could have done that any of the previous years without the Covid dramas ............. if it even had one ounce of sense in it! No 'civilised' society behaves that way. Society is about the fitter (and better off) supporting the weaker (and less well off). I have read all sorts about vaccines; some say that they will only last a short time and may not be very effective. Others say that they are likely to 'dampen things down to an extent that Covid becomes much less prevalent. Others still say that Covid is likely to mutate regularly and may circumnavigate vaccines. No one actually knows where the truth lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 I've just bought a 2021 diary, do you think I was over optimistic? People like us will just pay to have a vaccine privately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 We are a happy bunch today 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, blackbird said: We are a happy bunch today 😀 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: We could have done that any of the previous years without the Covid dramas ............. if it even had one ounce of sense in it! No 'civilised' society behaves that way. Society is about the fitter (and better off) supporting the weaker (and less well off). You would have to take the vote off the over 70s first though ? No turkey votes for Xmas. As far as civilised society goes, that only works as long as its sustainable, looking after the weak is a luxury that a strong, successful society is ABLE to do, until..it isnt, and cant. The UNs agenda 21/30 has much to say about this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: As far as civilised society goes, that only works as long as its sustainable, looking after the weak is a luxury that a strong, successful society is ABLE to do, until..it isnt, and cant. The key thing is that the 'strong' looking after the weak depends on all who are able contribute - then you have sufficient capacity to assist the relatively few who need to be supported. The problem at the moment is we have far to many who don't contribute, but are supported. For many - the state is about taking - not contributing. 5 minutes ago, Rewulf said: No turkey votes for Xmas. Never mind, sound like Christmas is cancelled this year anyway! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: The key thing is that the 'strong' looking after the weak depends on all who are able contribute - then you have sufficient capacity to assist the relatively few who need to be supported. The problem at the moment is we have far to many who don't contribute, but are supported. For many - the state is about taking - not contributing. Exactly, then comes the tipping point , where society/government reduces the amount of assistance provided. This is when they turn their votes to those that promise to continue to pay out , until the coffers are empty, then they borrow, until there is no more to borrow. Then we have a problem. The answer ? Ive no idea, I do know governments are fearful of reducing the social fund fo fear of losing those votes, but surely there are limits on what the 'workers' can support ? The solution is to reduce the load somehow... War tends to decimate those workers, where disease tends to decimate the weak. The natural order of things ? Maybe sometimes nature is given a helping hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Ive no idea, I do know governments are fearful of reducing the social fund fo fear of losing those votes I cannot disagree with anything you say, but that is how (mainly Blair and Brown) set up the present complex benefit system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I cannot disagree with anything you say, but that is how (mainly Blair and Brown) set up the present complex benefit system. Indeed it is, designed to be very difficult for ANY government to extract itself from. A social state so many are dependent on , any government that tries to lessen or curtail it, is doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: Society is about the fitter (and better off) supporting the weaker (and less well off). That's why our country is now **** and full of immigrants jumping in their dinghies to get here. This pandemic needs to clear out half the population and give us a chance to rebuild , we cant continue like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, FOXHUNTER1 said: This pandemic needs to clear out half the population Based on ages on here most of us will be cleared out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: It’s a bit bleak but if that does happen we would surely see a big reduction in population of the Earth. Then the Virus, whether man made or nature made, will have done what is was designed to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 I’m asthmatic and my dad but I’m a normal weight and otherwise healthy . I met a lady who works on an army base abroad. she lost a friend 30&50 . The one was a pt instructor and the other a carer . Her other friend has had it 3 times . 4 hours ago, FOXHUNTER1 said: When any population is out of control disease or starvation sorts it out. That is what is happening now survival of the fittest 😁 What a crappy attitude really . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, team tractor said: I’m asthmatic and my dad but I’m a normal weight and otherwise healthy . I met a lady who works on an army base abroad. she lost a friend 30&50 . The one was a pt instructor and the other a carer . Her other friend has had it 3 times . What a crappy attitude really . Not really it's called Nature. Its here to stay and we must adapt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 let’s hope the grand child has a better attitude if i die than the ones being shown on here of shrugging it of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 32 minutes ago, FOXHUNTER1 said: Not really it's called Nature. Its here to stay and we must adapt. If I die I’ll leave behind 4 kids . Nature is dying an old age in your sleep . This isn’t nature in this case . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Cheer up lads, It’s all a bit doom and gloom on here tonight! 😀 Things will get better when we get a decent vaccine, and then hopefully it won’t be the killer it’s become, and will just be another variation of the seasonal flu we have already learned to live with and which no one gets their knickers in a twist about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Scully said: Cheer up lads, It’s all a bit doom and gloom on here tonight! 😀 Things will get better when we get a decent vaccine, and then hopefully it won’t be the killer it’s become, and will just be another variation of the seasonal flu we have already learned to live with and which no one gets their knickers in a twist about. I hope (and strongly suspect) you are right, but it will need another 6 months to have much effect - and that is being optimistic. One worry is that a vaccine's good effects will be much reduced if a lot of anti vaxers/conspiracy theorists/nutcases (all the same thing I think) refuse it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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