oowee Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, scobydog said: Students can get an Nus card as I'd very easily. ID. Which Nus card there were several. some without photo or dob the new Totum ID's do have but they are after the study in 2015. The Commission’s research estimated that: Approximately 3.5m electors (7.5% of the electorate) would have none of the forms of photo ID highlighted, i.e. 92.5% of electors would already have at least one form of acceptable photo ID. Limiting acceptable ID to passports and photographic driving licences would see potentially 11m electors, or 24% of the electorate, without acceptable ID. Allowing only passports, photographic driving licences and Oyster Photocards to be used reduce the number of electors without ID to 6m, or 13% of the electorate. These estimates have not been updated since 2015 . 2 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: Wait until you hear about the precinct that reported 138,339 votes cast and 138,339 votes are all Biden in MI Wait until you hear about the precinct that reported 138,339 votes cast and 138,339 votes are all Biden in MI Please tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Zapp said: Is there any evidence that voters from one side are more likely to abuse the system than others? Because the situation described sounds like it would happen in both directions, especially if it were organised as is being claimed. Well the postal union endorsed Biden. And every time there is a discrepancy it’s in favor of the Democrats. 1 hour ago, mudpatten said: God help America if Biden wins. Wait until the Democraps try to take the guns off the Republicans. God help the world. The Chinese yen was collapsing when Trump was winning and suddenly swung up will Biden was in favor. 36 minutes ago, oowee said: Electoral commission report no mention of benefit claimants who as you say would have ID. Basically the Democrats say voter identification laws are racist because getting a ID is a very complicated process for black people to follow. You literally walk into any DMV and they will give you a id with a birth certificate and SS number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, oowee said: Mobile workers, students, those from over seas target ethnic minorities etc. It would of course depend on what type of ID was required. Even the simplest form would exclude 3.5m* and passport style would exclude 6m*. None of it of course having any impact on postal voting*. * source Electroral Commission study 2015. I really don't go with those figures. If you want id there is a smorgasbord to choose from and those legally entitled to it will have it aalready. My day job involves asking people for id and its not my experience that the people who can have it don't. Those that can't have it normally shouldn't be here and thusly shouldn't be voting in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: I can only agree with this, what is brewing is not good. Senior members of both parties need to call for patience and calm. National unity is more important than which man gets to sit on the big chair. The Republicans won’t riot. The big scare was for if Trump won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 No idea oowee, never went to Uni, but have managed student houses and all the students seemed to have ones with photo Id, don't know how prevalent they are. Personally I think we should have ID cards as standard, but that's my personal view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, NoBodyImportant said: The Republicans won’t riot. The big scare was for if Trump won. I agree, however it is about faith in the system even if the margin is tight. You saw it the other way with “Russian interference” theories from Democrats after 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 More news coming in Three states: Wisconsin, Michigan and Arizona there are more ballots cast than there are registered voters! Just reported by Rush Limbaugh: In Wisconsin there are 3.1million registered voters. There were 3.23 million ballots cast. Clear indication of voter fruad! Let's see what happens now! The constitution says the "State's Legislature" decides when to call the election race over, not the governors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, NoBodyImportant said: More news coming in Three states: Wisconsin, Michigan and Arizona there are more ballots cast than there are registered voters! Just reported by Rush Limbaugh: In Wisconsin there are 3.1million registered voters. There were 3.23 million ballots cast. Clear indication of voter fruad! Let's see what happens now! The constitution says the "State's Legislature" decides when to call the election race over, not the governors. Any evidence of that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 We’ve had and had debunked the “registered voters vs votes cast” before if I recall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, ordnance said: Any evidence of that ? I would like to see evidence of any of the claims being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, grrclark said: I would like to see evidence of any of the claims being made. So would i, i see things posted as factual with nothing to back them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, scobydog said: No idea oowee, never went to Uni, but have managed student houses and all the students seemed to have ones with photo Id, don't know how prevalent they are. Personally I think we should have ID cards as standard, but that's my personal view. I am with you on that. It would be so useful. It could even be activated through retina scan so no need to even carry it. 1 minute ago, grrclark said: I would like to see evidence of any of the claims being made. 👍 Probably on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/tweets/no-wisconsin-doesnt-have-more-ballots-cast-registe/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, GingerCat said: I really don't go with those figures. If you want id there is a smorgasbord to choose from and those legally entitled to it will have it aalready. My day job involves asking people for id and its not my experience that the people who can have it don't. Those that can't have it normally shouldn't be here and thusly shouldn't be voting in the first place. I would agree - though I did have some trouble a couple of years ago as I used my SGC as photo ID (didn't have a photo driving licence and don't have a (current) passport. When I was a student (over 40 years ago) we had photo ID even then - made from passport photos laminated to a student card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 The State of Wisconsin had 3,684,726 active registered voters on November 1, 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 I'm still waiting for evidence of Russia electing trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Source: https://elections.wi.gov/node/7220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Looking at the size of the black vote in USA its plain to see that Bidens support of BLM is more likely to result in police downscaling their effectiveness against a population that is well proven to be lawless enough to riot, smash their way into and rob and destroy business, even in their own community so it goes even further downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 Must be true if Rush Limbaugh said it. Latest False Fact-checks on Rush Limbaugh - | PolitiFact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Looking at the size of the black vote in USA its plain to see that Bidens support of BLM is more likely to result in police downscaling their effectiveness against a population that is well proven to be lawless enough to riot, smash their way into and rob and destroy business, even in their own community so it goes even further downhill. Eh? That is a remarkable leap of assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Looking at the size of the black vote in USA its plain to see that Bidens support of BLM is more likely to result in police downscaling their effectiveness against a population that is well proven to be lawless enough to riot, smash their way into and rob and destroy business, even in their own community so it goes even further downhill. If the police downscaled their trigger happy behaviour, there would be less trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, oowee said: 👍 Probably on twitter. I think the 138,000 (or whatever it was) new postal votes all for Bidden is related to a Trump tweet too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, ordnance said: If the police downscaled their trigger happy behaviour, there would be less trouble. Or if the George Floyd's of this world stopped refusing to comply... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, ordnance said: If the police downscaled their trigger happy behaviour, there would be less trouble. 👍 7 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Looking at the size of the black vote in USA its plain to see that Bidens support of BLM is more likely to result in police downscaling their effectiveness against a population that is well proven to be lawless enough to riot, smash their way into and rob and destroy business, even in their own community so it goes even further downhill. Errr no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Or if the George Floyd's of this world stopped refusing to comply... Not obeying police commands, is not capital crime last time i looked. American police are known worldwide for their shoot first mindset, with questionable accountability. Edited November 4, 2020 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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