oldypigeonpopper Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 01/01/2021 at 11:52, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, going to look on Sundayπ Hello, 4 fields of rape and hardly a pigeon about, snow forecast Friday so may help but it's this cold wind I don't likeπ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 Just about to leave the house now 0730. Going to see what's about and try decoying for crows - possibly π€Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 He must have shot a bagful as he's not been on since this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, old'un said: He must have shot a bagful as he's not been on since this morning. Terrible today, sat shooting rats this morning in the snow.Β No birds on or around the rape although 2 fields away where I don't have permission there was plenty laughing atΒ me from the trees. Went to a different field, watched a flight line for half hour and birds settling in trees, walked them off, set up a hide and decoys........one bird whilst setting up, my son got that. Nothing after that, my son went for a walk to see where they'd gone, saw nothing other than pheasant. In the meantime I had a dog walker come visit, well not so much visit as just jumped out of her skin when I said "good morning, are you lost"? Apparently its too muddy to keep to the footpaths so there she was half a mile away from one! Son came back, still nothing. So we spent some time building a permanent hide and making sure in a few weeks/months it'll be grown over in natural vegetation. We can enter from the back with no disturbance other than getting a few decoys out.Β See if it's still there this Friday π€ Back to rats, only managed 2 shots 2 rats although my son had plenty more. Home for chicken and chipsπ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 so in the lock down, you can still shootΒ vermin and pigeons after crops, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Centrepin said: Terrible today, sat shooting rats this morning in the snow.Β No birds on or around the rape although 2 fields away where I don't have permission there was plenty laughing atΒ me from the trees. Went to a different field, watched a flight line for half hour and birds settling in trees, walked them off, set up a hide and decoys........one bird whilst setting up, my son got that. Nothing after that, my son went for a walk to see where they'd gone, saw nothing other than pheasant. In the meantime I had a dog walker come visit, well not so much visit as just jumped out of her skin when I said "good morning, are you lost"? Apparently its too muddy to keep to the footpaths so there she was half a mile away from one! Son came back, still nothing. So we spent some time building a permanent hide and making sure in a few weeks/months it'll be grown over in natural vegetation. We can enter from the back with no disturbance other than getting a few decoys out.Β See if it's still there this Friday π€ Back to rats, only managed 2 shots 2 rats although my son had plenty more. Home for chicken and chipsπ Never mind at least you were out with your lad and shot a few rats, to be honest I don't think anyone is doing any good on the pigeons at the minute, they just ainβt hitting the rape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, old'un said: Never mind at least you were out with your lad and shot a few rats, to be honest I don't think anyone is doing any good on the pigeons at the minute, they just ainβt hitting the rape. The ones that are out are either high birds or feeding on neighbours crops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hitman Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 A few showing interest in the OSR locally to me , however with the game season coming to an abrupt end I will be roost shooting rather that decoying until the OSR is there main food source. Hitman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 are we aloud to roost shoot.with out a chance of being reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, mossy835 said: are we aloud to roost shoot.with out a chance of being reported. You can't go round your mate's house without being reported these days mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 14 hours ago, mossy835 said: so in the lock down, you can still shootΒ vermin and pigeons after crops, Β 10 hours ago, mossy835 said: are we aloud to roost shoot.with out a chance of being reported. The way I understand it, and I don't go anywhere without checking with the senior FEO of my area, crop protection, vermin control and protection of livestock is allowed. However this time round only two persons on the land at any time. Shooting game or sport shooting is a strict no no. I obviously can't say that in your area this will be allowed, only to check with a FEO or better still the senior FEO. Email or recorded phone call as proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted January 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Centrepin said: Β The way I understand it, and I don't go anywhere without checking with the senior FEO of my area, crop protection, vermin control and protection of livestock is allowed. However this time round only two persons on the land at any time. Shooting game or sport shooting is a strict no no. I obviously can't say that in your area this will be allowed, only to check with a FEO or better still the senior FEO. Email or recorded phone call as proof. Just to add to this if you have fox traps out it is law to check them every 24 hrs. Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 i phoned basc today, she said i can go out after squirrels,doing damage to the young trees, and rooks that are pulling up the beans.get a letter from the farmer to say i can,so we can go out.this is on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 On 01/01/2021 at 11:52, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, going to look on Sundayπ Hello, well I looked and looked but hardly a pigeon about, snow forecast tomorrow,Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 a new perm must be optimistic put a gas gun out withΒ noΒ birdsΒ in the wood let alone on his rape battery will be flat by time itβs neededΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 21 hours ago, the hitman said: A few showing interest in the OSR locally to me , however with the game season coming to an abrupt end I will be roost shooting rather that decoying until the OSR is there main food source. Hitman We were only discussing the fore coming roost shooting today , after the first lockdown I had to get a letter to class me as a key worker in case I got stopped by the law to say I wasn't making an unnecessary journey while keeping the Pigeons off our o s rΒ , for the four weeks roost shooting we normally issue out around 25 / 30 permits to roost shoots in the woods , these cost Β£20 each and the money go to a good local cause and not into the estate bank account , the roost shooting is now a Grey area , due to this currant lockdown we cannot shoot game or anything purely for sport . If we classed roost shooting as crop damage we would have to give each permit holder a letter to say they are key workers in case they were stopped. What would be the law on this situation in the lockdown ? Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hitman Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, marsh man said: We were only discussing the fore coming roost shooting today , after the first lockdown I had to get a letter to class me as a key worker in case I got stopped by the law to say I wasn't making an unnecessary journey while keeping the Pigeons off our o s rΒ , for the four weeks roost shooting we normally issue out around 25 / 30 permits to roost shoots in the woods , these cost Β£20 each and the money go to a good local cause and not into the estate bank account , the roost shooting is now a Grey area , due to this currant lockdown we cannot shoot game or anything purely for sport . If we classed roost shooting as crop damage we would have to give each permit holder a letter to say they are key workers in case they were stopped. What would be the law on this situation in the lockdown ? Β I have been notifying the police via text message whenever I venture out , and I receive a log number via text message, I was advised byΒ my local constabulary that vermin control was a more valid reason than crop protection for shooting pigeons in their eyes - I didnβt argue. As long as they send me the log number then I will be covered if stopped on my way/return from shooting. I imagine all constabularies will have their own views - and perhaps I was lucky enough to get advice from a police officer who is also a fellow shooter. Hitman Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, the hitman said: I have been notifying the police via text message whenever I venture out , and I receive a log number via text message, I was advised byΒ my local constabulary that vermin control was a more valid reason than crop protection for shooting pigeons in their eyes - I didnβt argue. As long as they send me the log number then I will be covered if stopped on my way/return from shooting. I imagine all constabularies will have their own views - and perhaps I was lucky enough to get advice from a police officer who is also a fellow shooter. Hitman Β Cheers for that Hitman ...... I have just seen on the B A S C website that shooting is now allowed if you are by yourself or with one other person , plus you have to keep it local and is part of your exercise , so as all our permit holders come and help out on the shoot and live fairly local , I recon unless things are changed again they should be o k . Good luck in the woods and STAY SAFE . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, marsh man said: Cheers for that Hitman ...... I have just seen on the B A S C website that shooting is now allowed if you are by yourself or with one other person , plus you have to keep it local and is part of your exercise , so as all our permit holders come and help out on the shoot and live fairly local , I recon unless things are changed again they should be o k . Good luck in the woods and STAY SAFE . Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 just seen it on the basc web site. all clear to go shooting.once a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Yes found it! https://basc.org.uk/basc-clarifies-advice-on-shooting-during-lockdown/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Do you have a link? Dave ...Β Β I can't hardly spell my name and my full name is only seven letters ,let alone give you a link , but I can tell you how to find it . Click on the BASC website , then scroll down for the government latest advice on the pandemic , click on to that sentence and then scroll up and you will get a block with England , Scotland , Wales and N/ Ireland , click on to England and all the latest information is on that pageΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, marsh man said: Dave ...Β Β I can't hardly spell my name and my full name is only seven letters ,let alone give you a link , but I can tell you how to find it . Click on the BASC website , then scroll down for the government latest advice on the pandemic , click on to that sentence and then scroll up and you will get a block with England , Scotland , Wales and N/ Ireland , click on to England and all the latest information is on that pageΒ Already found it and posted it above. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Already found it and posted it above. Cheers You always were one step aheadΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manymissedpigeon Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 Was out yesterday. Always ring the police force via 111 night before and get through to area required, usually North Yorkshire. Then give a description of fields to be shot over plus land owner/agents telephone number. Sometimes difficult to get through but there is a facility to get a βring backβ and I have always received a call within the hour so full marks so far. Usual questions are β what type of weapon and do you have a dog with you?β Plus your telephone number. This is actually quite useful as I have had problems with the odd βantiβ and have been rung up when on a field and asked politely ifΒ A, was it me shooting and B any chance you can move further up/ down the field as some βtownieβ ( and that is usually the firearms officers description in theses areas) is moaning about noise/shot fall ( usually described as bullets landingΒ nearby) Five minutsΒ friendly chat with the firearms and I move 20 yards. Sometimes works and sometimes not but the rozzers do the best they can so no use gun owners being owt but pleasant with them. Boring I know but the field of osr I was asked to shoot already had a gas gun on it with a few pigeons but the main group were sat in the tree tops two fields away dropping down on some stubbles. Great as I could drive the field and unload my full load of gear including mini gas heater etc. Found quite a lot of single plants of volunteer rape which were absolutely eaten to the leaf skeleton. Set up and lo and behold, a following pair then only a single careless bird for two hours. Now although the birds werβnt actually doing damage on the stubbles, I also kept them off the actual osr field whereas the single gas gun was not doing any good so I consider my half day to genuinely be βcrop protectionβ Went up to some fields in North Yorkshire and found not a pigeon on two really poorly established fields ( where I expected them to be gathering) yet a well eaten corner in a field where the plants were all near knee high! Bloody pigeon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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