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It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail.

However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare!

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2 minutes ago, Sciurus said:

It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail.

However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare!

Men in prison, women and kids in the workhouse and sell all vehicles to pay for their keep. Simple. Sorted. Next.

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2 hours ago, Sciurus said:

It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail.

However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare!

 

In this day and age, women are allowed to drive madly enough... the women can drive their cars and caravans off the land that they shouldn't be on. If not, the vehicles should be impounded, the same as anyone elses vehicle would be. 

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2 hours ago, Lloyd90 said:

 

In this day and age, women are allowed to drive madly enough... the women can drive their cars and caravans off the land that they shouldn't be on. If not, the vehicles should be impounded, the same as anyone elses vehicle would be. 

Inspection of vehicles and caravans should reveal most of them are stolen anyway with identification changed.

So shouldnt be that big a problem.

Kids can go into care, somewhere  remote preferably. 

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@Lloyd90 Unfortunately, the ladies of the camp will have suddenly forgotten how to drive or mislaid their keys!

Of course, there is no reason why the women can’t be arrested as well but imagine the furore as the children are taken into care. Remember the international flak Trump got breaking up illegal immigrant families?

Whatever the changes in law, the practical problems of dealing with squatters or travellers is just a nightmare.

 

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5 hours ago, Sciurus said:

It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail.

However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare!

You could check the serial numbers on the caravans and the vehicles for red diesel for a start

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2 hours ago, Sciurus said:

@Lloyd90 Unfortunately, the ladies of the camp will have suddenly forgotten how to drive or mislaid their keys!

Of course, there is no reason why the women can’t be arrested as well but imagine the furore as the children are taken into care. Remember the international flak Trump got breaking up illegal immigrant families?

Whatever the changes in law, the practical problems of dealing with squatters or travellers is just a nightmare.

 

 

They'll soon remember the keys where abouts when facing the fees of releasing the cars from impound. 

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Yes, I am aware of all that. I had the misfortune of spending several years evicting travellers in Liverpool.

The reality is these people live outside the law, but the police do not want to open the Pandora’s box of getting tough and start checking vehicle tax, ownership etc because of the problems it causes. All they used to do is make sure the eviction is carried out without trouble, once the travellers were on the road, they would not let them stop but merely escorted them to the next police patch so it became someone else’s problem.

If you think about it, under the proposed scheme, if there was a small camp of 10 vans, you might have to arrest 20 adults, and put say 10 children into care. All under the gaze of mobile phones recording everything and the usual left wing bleeding hearts.

If you then confiscated the vans and caravans for whatever reason, in a few days you would be left with 20 released adults and 10 children, with no home and no means of ‘earning’ a living. All telling a sob story on tv. Next minute you would have to put 10 families into B&B accommodation, pay them benefits and eventually give them a Council house, which of course is regarded as torture as it is against their beliefs! Total Nightmare.

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16 hours ago, Sciurus said:

It’s a step in the right direction but the devil will be in the detail.

However, there is also the practical problems of what do you do at eviction time. If you arrest the chaps, what will you do with the women and children, not to mention the caravans and unlicensed vehicles? A Nightmare!

And that, I was told many years ago why the authorities preferred to look the other way? Uman rites and cost innit?

A lot of seriously nasty individuals involved there.

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