sandspider Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Hi all Just wondering, is anyone on here in the double glazing industry? We've been looking at getting some new windows for a few months now, but keep getting told prices have gone up and are going up more, due to Corona virus / Brexit whatever the excuse of choice is. We've got to go ahead with a few windows as they need to be replaced, but the rest could wait until next year or later. Does anyone think double glazing prices might go down again, once Corona / Brexit settles down? Or are prices only likely to keep going up, and we should bite the bullet and do the lot now? I fear it's probably the latter, unless anyone thinks otherwise? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, sandspider said: Hi all Just wondering, is anyone on here in the double glazing industry? We've been looking at getting some new windows for a few months now, but keep getting told prices have gone up and are going up more, due to Corona virus / Brexit whatever the excuse of choice is. We've got to go ahead with a few windows as they need to be replaced, but the rest could wait until next year or later. Does anyone think double glazing prices might go down again, once Corona / Brexit settles down? Or are prices only likely to keep going up, and we should bite the bullet and do the lot now? I fear it's probably the latter, unless anyone thinks otherwise? Thanks. There's a firm in my town that make, sell and fit their double glazed windows. Probably a bit too far for them to travel though. I'm in RCT, Mid Glam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Prices have gone up due to demand outstripping supply. The furnaces were turned off across Europe and have been slow at coming back in to full production. The Glass firm at work have had to rent another warehouse in Peterborough to allow them to increase their orders and by doing that their suppliers will get them sorted first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 I'm not in the industry, but a few thoughts; All building trades seem busy at the moment - the given reason being that those who still have income, but have been restricted from holidays have been spending on home improvements instead, notably home office/workspaces and refurbishments. Possibly once holiday spends are back on, the pressure may ease a bit. If you currently have the money, it won't be earning decent interest - and so - in a way it might be better in new windows. As government pressure to better insulate (CO2 reductions etc.) continue, there may be more grants/assistance for those who can get it - and that can either help (if you are eligible) or hinder if it forces up demand. Not a great help I know - but freely given! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Prices have gone up due to demand outstripping supply. The furnaces were turned off across Europe and have been slow at coming back in to full production. The Glass firm at work have had to rent another warehouse in Peterborough to allow them to increase their orders and by doing that their suppliers will get them sorted first. That and a shortage of the correct silica used in production. My friend who is chucking on two windows in our extension has been struggling to get them for both a reasonable price and get them in general. They are single pane 10mm double glazed units in a rather industrial size 3.86mx2.60m high. Im going to need a second or third mortgage to pay for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jaymo said: That and a shortage of the correct silica used in production. My friend who is chucking on two windows in our extension has been struggling to get them for both a reasonable price and get them in general. They are single pane 10mm double glazed units in a rather industrial size 3.86mx2.60m high. Im going to need a second or third mortgage to pay for them. No you really don't need to. Could you be bothered to collect from Peterborough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted May 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Glass up 28% since last year apparently, or maybe since last month! Yep, it's an expensive business. Our neighbours had 8 windows and 3 doors installed in Sept last year, and the same supplier is now quoting a much higher cost just for 8 windows. No grants or anything that I've been able to find, just for insulation and such. I'm hoping it might get better, for reasons such as john gives above, but not holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: No you really don't need to. Could you be bothered to collect from Peterborough? Of course I could have, but he placed the order 10 days ago. telehandler with pneumatic suction device and plenty of ‘hands’ needed for the install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 OUCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 I know nothing about a shortage, but a neighbour was quoted (last week) around £6000 for a very large balcony window, two fixed panels and a door in the middle. On negotiation this was reduced to £3100, with no reduction in specification. This was a "well known" company, they must need the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cranfield said: I know nothing about a shortage, but a neighbour was quoted (last week) around £6000 for a very large balcony window, two fixed panels and a door in the middle. On negotiation this was reduced to £3100, with no reduction in specification. This was a "well known" company, they must need the work. Fairly standard across the industry, NEVER accept the first quote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted May 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Seems to be a shortage down here! Got 3 quotes, and this one was the least horrible for a reasonable spec. I did gently try and round it down a bit, but no luck. And the company has a good reputation. Also, everywhere is quoting very long lead times, only 3 months for this company! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taileron Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) I have just finished changing all of my windows. I had a quote and the local firm wanted £5500 plus £2400 for two laminate doors. I found a company on line, modern UPVC windows direct at Hinckley, part of Burbidge Custom Windows. You simply measure the reveal, brick to brick, take 5mm off all around and design the windows you want on line. Fitting windows is incredibly easy, the doors took a while but nothing a proficient individual cannot tackle. The upshot was that fitting them myself cost £3850 INCLUDING the doors. Their prices on line have not changed at all in the last 6 months, the only delay was getting hold of the laminate for the doors, the delay was 3 weeks. My old windows must have been fitted by a blind man who was unable to read a tape measure, the worst one was 56mm too small and the gap was filled with a lake of silicone. The company will deliver nationwide for £50, regardless of how many windows are purchased, I collected mine as it was only a hour away in the car. Hope the information helps. Best of luck👍 Edited May 23, 2021 by Taileron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 From a house sale point of view,lots of the cheaper companies dont provide the FENSA guarantees, i am not sure if that encompasses fitting your own. Most mortgages demand these guarantees so buyer beware.from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, 100milesaway said: From a house sale point of view,lots of the cheaper companies dont provide the FENSA guarantees, i am not sure if that encompasses fitting your own. Most mortgages demand these guarantees so buyer beware.from Auntie. You can overcome the Fensa thing by getting Building Regulation Approval instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted May 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Thanks folks. Sounds like there's a bit of a regional variation in window demand, perhaps! Don't think I'm up to the task of fitting myself- our house is old and stone and nothing is square, vertical etc. Guess we'll bite the bullet for now and hope prices (or room for negotiation) improve next year as demand falls / capacity increases / the world is a bit less messed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Buy them all at the same time so they’ll match on moulds etc. glass is going up at a scary rate the same as all materials. I priced a window last year at £6k and it’s now £9k . I can’t get double glazed units for 4 weeks on average instead of 4 days . No glass , No wood , No preservatives, the world is a mess and things are just going up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 as above all building materials in short supply at the moment and prices going up every two weeks if they have what you want buy it now or wait until next year after 40+ years in the building game i cant call it give eurocell a call you should have a depot near they can supply and you fit or builder mates fit be aware some of the cheaper ones use recycled plastic which yellows and or gets dirty quicker with old school locks eurocell high gloss inc colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 If it can wait I would hold off until next year. Material prices for everything are through the roof at the moment but are expected to start coming back down by the end of the year. On some of the specialist steel we buy we have seen a 55% increase since January, for basic materials like mild steel sheet price increases of over 100% have been seen. Forget about Brexit the issue is all corona with manufacturing facilities across the world shut for lockdowns etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted May 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 Thanks all. We'll do one end of the house now (which has the worst windows) and hope things get better next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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