Kojak_79 Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Just seen this on another forum looks like Guntrader folded and been reset up under a different company name. With the same directors. Presume trying to avoid any possible GDPR fines or compensation claims. https://www.facebook.com/103562249732537/posts/4444808968941155/?sfnsn=scwspmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) Strange Teal killed Gun Watch off yesterday! Edited October 29, 2021 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Surely given that statement guntrader going into liquidation is an admission of guilt re the data leak and they must be worried about multiple claims against them ,presumably they have taken solicitors advice. so they have ducked the responsibility and started again with another name. My name and details were on that list and although I didn't ever consider legal action I felt very uncomfortable not just for myself but for my family .Somehow guntraders subsequent action to go into liquidation has filled me with utter contempt for them,instead of full unashamed apologies admitting that they have compromised thousands of peoples security and that they had ***ed up big time they seem to be blaming the few who are taking legal action , unbelievable!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 I guess we all just avoid using the new company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Quote Strange Teal killed Gun Watch off yesterday! I would imagine that the demise of Guntrader would send a shockwave to any site owner who held details of guns and licence holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamyonsofor Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 If they have set up again I wonder if they have the Plums or audacity to make contact to previous users and dealers as they must have details of us all who registered it's all about revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 I got an e-mail saying they had been hacked. I wonder if the "new" firm will have access to all the previously held details or will they be starting from scratch? I haven't given my details to the new firm and I would think they have no right to hold them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojak_79 Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamyonsofor Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Am I missing the trick just been on Go--le and downloaded Guntrader and it still comes up with the old name they have not changed the website or details how to register to use the selling /buying side of things that is still Guntrader UK nothing about Guntrader2 or any other name they are using . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) I have asked Guntrader on what basis they are continuing to hold my data. I await their response. Edited October 29, 2021 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I have asked Guntrader on what basis they are continiung to hold my data. I await their response. Let us know what they say ,if my old guntrader account is accessible through the new company without them contacting me they will have to invent yet another new company because it will be taking the proverbial ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 hours ago, holloway said: Surely given that statement guntrader going into liquidation is an admission of guilt re the data leak I ain't no lawyer, but no. Not in the legal sense anyway. 2 hours ago, holloway said: ,instead of full unashamed apologies admitting that they have compromised thousands of peoples security and that they had ***ed up big time they seem to be blaming the few who are taking legal action , First of all, if they did come out with 'full unashamed apologies', that could be construed as an admission of liability, in which case they very much would be in a spot of bother. Not sure how you can take that and call it 'blaming' those taking legal action, but whatever. All that is not to say this isn't a royal screw-up on their part. We even had a poster on PW saying he made them aware of security holes but was ignored. There were some very interesting posts on Facebook apparently. Am not an FB user, but this article on the register was quite illuminating. Quote from the now-deleted FB post: Quote Due to a small number of people wanting compensation because their data leaked onto the internet, action had to be taken. Sadly with this compensation culture guntrader.uk could not survive these claims so was forced into liquidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Guntrader2 UK Ltd was incorporated on 6th. September so this appears to pre-empt the liquidation. It was then changed to Guntrader media Ltd on 27th. October. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Guntrader provided a very useful service to trade and customers & I would miss it if it was not available. Being a limited company, it was always going to end like this unless insurers stepped in. Not taking data security seriously enough has been a costly and serious error for the company and for some of its customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 01/11/2021 at 17:07, arjimlad said: Guntrader provided a very useful service to trade and customers & I would miss it if it was not available. Being a limited company, it was always going to end like this unless insurers stepped in. Not taking data security seriously enough has been a costly and serious error for the company and for some of its customers. Has anyone on Pigeon watch started legal action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 will any one get any where, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, mossy835 said: will any one get any where, Who knows,but pretty sure some will try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 I recall Guntraders assets stood at £600K, before liquidation. There is a firm of Solicitors taking action and asking for anyone concerned to fill in an on-line form. I have served a Subject Access Request on Guntrader and have been contacted by Alex Andover. He has requested that I ring him, but I want everything in writing, so e-mail it is. My details are still on the "new" Guntrader site which has taken over. I want an audit trail of where my details are recorded, if they have been passed over to a new company and why. Having had confidential information hacked, I did think that those details would never have been then voluntarily been passed to a new company. It might well be the same managerial team as the old Guntrader, but they are not the ones I gave my details to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 My details on Guntrader are not where I live now, but my mobile number is still the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 I am struggling with Guntrader's position. If the old firm has been liquidated and any liability for the hacking lies with the defunct company, how can they pass details over to a "new" company? Have we any experts on company law on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 58 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I am struggling with Guntrader's position. If the old firm has been liquidated and any liability for the hacking lies with the defunct company, how can they pass details over to a "new" company? Have we any experts on company law on here? Completely agree,I had no thought of legal action until Andovers squirming response to litigation my account still functions as it did so is it a new company or not ,if new where have they got my details from.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 I intend to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 I hope that you get some answers ,as the whole situation is very smelly! Andover has certainly not behaved in a manner that enlists any sympathy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 I have emailed them asking for more clarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 Good luck if you get a proper answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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