What a start new year

[Bigteddy1954]

Hi folks two days into 2022 had covid end of November finished isolation beginning Dec daughter myself and grandson , then yesterday grandson had bad cough had a lft was positive had a pcr test that came BK positive as well so BK into isolation what a start to 2022 . Fat Boris and his merry men just letting it ride out what a joke? Cheers teddy

 

[billytheghillie]

What would you do in his shoes?

[dead eye alan]

Dammed if he does dammed if he don't, just ride it out  its nearly over.

[Scully]

I don’t really understand how people can point the finger at anyone, for themselves catching the virus, unless it’s at someone who knows they’ve tested positive and is going around deliberately infecting people. 
Just because the country isn’t in enforced lockdown, no one is prevented from placing themselves in lockdown if that’s what they want to do.  

[Old farrier]

10 minutes ago, Scully said:

I don’t really understand how people can point the finger at anyone, for themselves catching the virus, unless it’s at someone who knows they’ve tested positive and is going around deliberately infecting people. 
Just because the country isn’t in enforced lockdown, no one is prevented from placing themselves in lockdown if that’s what they want to do.  

It’s not quite that simple 

someone with a compromised immune system or underlying health conditions would still have to shop or do some things 

incredibly difficult when half the population can’t understand 2 meters or wear a mask in a shop or can’t be bothered to follow a one way system 

for most this virus is a inconvenience for some it’s a potential death sentence 

seems to me the biggest problem is lack of consideration for others especially people who you don’t know 

just my thoughts 

 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

3 minutes ago, Old farrier said:

seems to me the biggest problem is lack of consideration for others especially people who you don’t know  

Nail/head interface bang on.

[Bigteddy1954]

2 hours ago, billytheghillie said:

What would you do in his shoes?

Well I would try abit harder than just saying before u party and enjoy yourself get a lft test then causes a nation wide shortage of them. My daughter works in a nhs hospital now she has to isolate once again they short staffed to start with and the hospital is already in a lockdown no visitors at all.cheers teddy

[bruno22rf]

1 hour ago, Old farrier said:

It’s not quite that simple 

someone with a compromised immune system or underlying health conditions would still have to shop or do some things 

incredibly difficult when half the population can’t understand 2 meters or wear a mask in a shop or can’t be bothered to follow a one way system 

for most this virus is a inconvenience for some it’s a potential death sentence 

seems to me the biggest problem is lack of consideration for others especially people who you don’t know 

just my thoughts 

 

Count me in your post, people with my conditions have a 1 in 3 death rate if they catch it.

[Walker570]

If you are likely to suffer from it and vulnerable, then don't you take necessary precautions, eg masks etc. If you do that and wash hands etc etc etc.  Then how is someone without a mask going to give you covid when you have all of these preventions in place plus all jabs?    I don't wear a mask unless requested to do so. Recently went to the eye hospital and it said please wear a mask. On arrival I was asked to dump the blue mask everyone else outside was wearing and given a much more robust professional one. The attendant suggested the one disgarded where useless. So much for the 'designer' masks everyone is displaying.   

[Old farrier]

5 minutes ago, Walker570 said:

If you are likely to suffer from it and vulnerable, then don't you take necessary precautions, eg masks etc. If you do that and wash hands etc etc etc.  Then how is someone without a mask going to give you covid when you have all of these preventions in place plus all jabs?    I don't wear a mask unless requested to do so. Recently went to the eye hospital and it said please wear a mask. On arrival I was asked to dump the blue mask everyone else outside was wearing and given a much more robust professional one. The attendant suggested the one disgarded where useless. So much for the 'designer' masks everyone is displaying.   

Let’s look at this one logically 

you have a gun a pellet and a target 

you fire the gun killing your target 

now the target has a shield 

you fire at the target hitting the shield you may still hit the target 

now you have a shield in front of your gun 

the pellet ricochet back at you 

it’s about as simple as I can put it in shooting terms 

all this time the target with the shield doesn’t know if your gun is loaded 

that’s why they avoid you like the plague 

Is it that hard to wear a mask and keep back 2 meters 

the vulnerable can take as many precautions as possible 

it’s a lot safer and easier if the rest of the population helps 

it’s called being thoughtful and considerate to others 

[Walker570]

We must agree to differ as both explanations are common sense.

[Scully]

1 hour ago, Old farrier said:

It’s not quite that simple 

someone with a compromised immune system or underlying health conditions would still have to shop or do some things 

incredibly difficult when half the population can’t understand 2 meters or wear a mask in a shop or can’t be bothered to follow a one way system 

for most this virus is a inconvenience for some it’s a potential death sentence 

seems to me the biggest problem is lack of consideration for others especially people who you don’t know 

just my thoughts 

 

Yes, it is. People can have their shopping delivered. I have three friends whom have been undergoing treatment for cancer throughout the pandemic. One has missed two seasons shooting because he was shielding due to his treatment causing him to have exactly the opposite of a suppressed immune system. He is back out this season after being given the all clear but is still regarded as vulnerable if he gets it. 
If you have to venture out then masks and sanitiser are there to use. 
People die from flu every year, I’m assuming if this is going to kill you then there’s a good chance flu is also, but we don’t wear masks, sanitise, social distance, have a one way system ( ridiculous outside! ) or shield because of that as far as I’m aware. 
I understand people are scared, I really do, but there are precautions in place for those who want to make use of them, but the rest of the population really do need to get on with their lives. It’s not practical and very unfair to expect the vast vast majority of the population to pussyfoot around due to something that may or may not happen. 
There were two tables of eight pensioners at the New Year celebrations in the pub the other day, the eldest being 83. They came from Newcastle, Durham, Stanhope, The Wirral, Southport and Darlington. None of them as far as I’m aware, expected anyone to wear a mask, take a lateral flow test before attending, or socially distance. It was a party of over 240 people, all there by choice and having a really good time and getting on with their lives. All will have been aware ( just as my OH and myself were, and the rest of the staff ) that all of us and them would be going back to our respective homes and relatives afterwards. There were children there too, far too young to have had a vaccine. 
We can’t go on living like we’re afraid to live, we really can’t. We’re only here once. 
 

[bruno22rf]

My bad. Looked up the answer to my own question.

Edited January 2, 2022 by bruno22rf

[Scully]

Informed via email at 0147 that my PCR came back positive. Annoying really, had all sorts planned for this week, but there’s nothing I can do now, so it’s a couch potato for me until at least day six and seven if I get two negative LFT’s. 
OH doesn’t have it and hopefully won’t get it, but we’ll see. 
I can recommend ‘I Dreamed of Scotland’ on YouTube, and a review of the Beretta ‘allegro?’or something along those lines. Can’t recall what it’s called now! 

[Jim Neal]

19 hours ago, Scully said:

Informed via email at 0147 that my PCR came back positive. Annoying really, had all sorts planned for this week, but there’s nothing I can do now, so it’s a couch potato for me until at least day six and seven if I get two negative LFT’s. 
OH doesn’t have it and hopefully won’t get it, but we’ll see. 
I can recommend ‘I Dreamed of Scotland’ on YouTube, and a review of the Beretta ‘allegro?’or something along those lines. Can’t recall what it’s called now! 

Hope it doesn’t rough you up too much mate, all the best 👍

[Scully]

1 minute ago, Jim Neal said:

Hope it doesn’t rough you up too much mate, all the best 👍

Nah, I’m fine really, but Thankyou anyhow. I’ve had worse colds to be honest; it’s just the massive inconvenience of it all that rankles. It was inevitable I suppose, working in a local pub on New Years Eve. 
We live in the sticks in one of the least populated areas of the country on the edge of the Lake District, and OH is playing hell with me cos I suggested walking the dogs. Anyhow, she’s done it and I’m sat here like a clown while she goes to work. 

[loriusgarrulus]

Due to a bad heart I have been wearing a mask to go shopping and appointments since March 2020, before they made it mandatory. I continued to wear a mask even when they became optional. I spray anything being delivered or shopping fetched in and carry and use a 70% Isopropyl alcohol spray.

The mask I have has a 0.3 micron intake filter which are changable with rubber seal round the face. I added a filter to the exhaust valve to protect others as it was standard with a straight flap valve to just protect me.

I don't go to crowd events, but then I didn't attend many before. I didn't stay in and shield. I was and still am being careful. I still walk the dogs and go to the seaside with them. Just not to crowded areas.

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by loriusgarrulus

[Scully]

Good for you. There are many like you. I’m not a crowd person either to be honest, and if I hadn’t been asked to work I wouldn’t have been at the event. 
It’s up to all of us to use our common sense to get through this as best we can. The syndicate mate who has undergone cancer treatment attends shoots but didn’t go to the Christmas do, and won’t be at the end of season annual dinner either. 
I took the LFT after the new year Eve nights work as I had arranged to go shooting on the Sunday with another mate who has an underlying condition. Obviously we didn’t go. 
Good luck. 

[loriusgarrulus]

I am lucky I am retired, but I used to wear a facemask at work a lot anyway. 🤷‍♀️

[figgy]

Anyone with compromised immune systems can lock themselves down. Why should the rest of society be locked down when they are fine to go about and enjoy themselves.  
My wife and I still go out and do all we can but are sensible and constantly use good hand sanitiser along with wearing masks. Daughter said she was going to call and then said youngest grandson had been to to day care and one of the other toddlers had tested positive. She was told to stay away and we just FaceTime them. 
Boris and co are not forcing you to go out and mix with the great unwashed. 
Need to go shopping etc, go when it’s quiet and very few people are around. Or get it delivered to your door and wash it to be sure. 

Edited January 9, 2022 by figgy

[TIGHTCHOKE]

7 minutes ago, figgy said:

Anyone with compromised immune systems can lock themselves down. Why should the rest of society be locked down when they are fine to go about and enjoy themselves.  
My wife and I still go out and do all we can but are sensible and constantly use good hand sanitiser along with wearing masks. Daughter said she was going to call and then said youngest grandson had been to to day care and one of the other toddlers had tested positive. She was told to stay away and we just FaceTime them. 
Boris and co are not forcing you to go out and mix with the great unwashed. 
Need to go shopping etc, go when it’s quiet and very few people are around. Or get it delivered to your door and wash it to be sure. 

Stop being so damned sensible, it is headless chicken run around screaming time!

[figgy]

Ha ha.  At work it was said that we basically had a lockdown without it being called a lockdown. Soon as they said be careful and think of what’s important to you. That was it, bookings got cancelled very few went out. 
The government was clever in what they did. 

[Scully]

I genuinely think we’re getting to the stage now when we are simply going to have to learn to live with it. 
It’s just been on the radio that there are calls to cut isolation down to five days and LFT’s will only be free to essential workers.
Furlough is finished, those with cold like symptoms will have to pay for LFT’s if they want them, and who is going to do that if a positive means time off work with no pay?

I still tested positive yesterday at day 7, and we have no LFT’s left, so unless OH can find some stashed away in her parents house in the next hour or so ( which there is a good chance of her finding some ) that’s me stuck here for the full ten, which is pretty ridiculous given what has just been on the news.
OH is currently awaiting yet another PCR result as she tested positive yesterday with our last LFT. She, like me, has had a cold for over a week now, yet I tested positive with a PCR last weekend, but she didn’t. She has been working throughout my isolation. 
If I hadn’t taken any LFT’s I would have just gone to work, as I’ve genuinely had much worse colds. 
Talking to mates, there are a lot of folk with colds still in work, whether they’re testing or not I have no idea, but I know of two who I would stake money on not having tested. 
 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Scully

[Mice!]

57 minutes ago, Scully said:

Talking to mates, there are a lot of folk with colds still in work, whether they’re testing or not I have no idea, but I know of two who I would stake money on not having tested

I'm not at all surprised at that, the idea of not getting paid will be enough for some to think you can get stuffed, but that will also help this thing spread.

59 minutes ago, Scully said:

hadn’t taken any LFT’s I would have just gone to work, as I’ve genuinely had much worse colds. 

We said the same, but with a few covid symptoms thrown in, which will mean loads of people will still be going out to work and other things because they see it as just a cold.

Loads currently off at my place, either family members have it or they do, but we do mandatory testing each week, makes you wonder how long employer's will keep footing the bill?

[Scully]

32 minutes ago, Mice! said:

I'm not at all surprised at that, the idea of not getting paid will be enough for some to think you can get stuffed, but that will also help this thing spread.

We said the same, but with a few covid symptoms thrown in, which will mean loads of people will still be going out to work and other things because they see it as just a cold.

Loads currently off at my place, either family members have it or they do, but we do mandatory testing each week, makes you wonder how long employer's will keep footing the bill?

When we did our PCR’s last weekend, we couldn’t tick the NHS website symptoms as none applied to us, and as from the 11th anyone testing positive after a LFT isn’t required to take a PCR but should self isolate. Who’s to know? 🤷‍♂️